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mrv3000 ([personal profile] mrv3000) wrote2011-03-31 01:13 pm

More eReader thoughts.

More for my own use - just getting down my list of what's important to me in an eReader.

    1. Readability/the screen. This is the biggest thing to me. I want it to look like paper and not a video screen. So no color, unless it can switch to paper mode. I can get fatigued reading too much on a video screen, so the closest this can mimic paper, the better.

    2. Ease of uploading fic. I still have most of The Altverse series to go through, after all. :)

    3. The formats it uses. I'm disappointed that everyone's being so proprietary about things. Borders has already gone down the drain, what if B&N goes bye-bye? Won't I be able to buy eBooks anymore if I have a Nook? This bugs me because there are tons of different companies that make DVD players, and they all can play the same DVD. It's ridiculous that eBooks aren't the same way.

    4. Size/weight. I don't want to be squinting to read, but I don't want to hold something giant. A large paperback size would be ideal since I wouldn't want to have to flip to the next screen every two lines or something. Lighter is obviously better, although my number one reading spot is in bed, lying on my side. The book is sort of propped up as opposed to held, so I can't imagine a few ounces difference in weight would matter much.

    5. Library eBooks. In theory, apparently. I've not used the service, but apparently the San Diego library has a decent sized collection of eBooks. No idea if it includes anything I want, but it would be nice to have that option down the road.

    6. Wi-fi. It's pretty low on the list since it sounds like it could be handy for transferring files, but I don't plan on surfing the web with this thing. I've got a laptop for that.

    7. Battery life. It seems like all of them are fairly decent. As long as it gets me through the couple of hours I usually read at night, I'm good.

    8. Keyboard/touch pad. I simply don't care what type of interface it has, so long as it isn't clumsy to use.

Re: Have fun!

[identity profile] 2011-03-31 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
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[personal profile] got_swagger 2011-03-31 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a Sony eReader (now oldschool - there are newer, nicer ones) and I've been thrilled with it. (I SWEAR I WILL ONE DAY OWN ONE OF THE NEWER ONES.)

It'll take ePubs, pdf, and word documents that I'm aware of.

I mostly use it for free ebooks I find here on LJ and for fic I've put into PDF format.

I can't talk about the specs of the newest ones, but it's worth a look to the website at least.
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[personal profile] got_swagger 2011-03-31 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I also use something called Callibre to convert into .ePub format from .lit, .pdf, etch. It works great.

[identity profile] 2011-03-31 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I think I'd want to take a look at it as well. Looks like there is a Sony store in S.D. Hmmm.
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[identity profile] 2011-03-31 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
They also have a big selection that you can usually pick up and use at most Best Buys.

[identity profile] 2011-03-31 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Really? Much easier!

[identity profile] 2011-03-31 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I've got a kindle and, in my opinion, the only fault with it is the locked formats.

It's very light (even with the optional cover attatched), the font size is very adjustable, the battery lasts for a month, transferring files is easy (I've transferred fic using calibre...but you may want to make sure it's properly formatted, first-the fic I transferred had some old, wonky coding and it has a few character errors but is still readable) and, personally, I actually find it less tiring to read the kindle screen than actual paper.

Buying books is really easy, too. And you can now also get (admittedly, vastly overpriced) covers with an integral booklight so that you can read in the dark, too (since the screen isn't backlit).

I can't help you with the library question (since I don't use libraries for ebooks and, if I did, I wouldn't be using an American library!) but the kindle probably ticks all of the boxes but that one.

[identity profile] 2011-03-31 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I think I'd be ordering a Kindle right now if it wasn't for the library issue. I keep thinking I'll be kicking myself for not having that ability.

[identity profile] 2011-03-31 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it does seem like a severe drawback.

However (and this in no way helps your decision now, as this is something I think will take a few more years to pan out) I do think that amazon will eventually win the ebook battle on sheer magnitude of sales, even if the kindle isn't the absolute best. The amount of advertising and publicity it gets is really setting it apart (certainly in the UK where loads of people I know have suddenly brought one in the last 6 months). In the same way that the iPod probably isn't the greatest mp3 player ever, but it's untouchable now. And when that happens, it'll probably result in the formats being opened up.

[identity profile] 2011-03-31 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Choosing between Amazon and B&N, I'd put my money behind Amazon as well.

[identity profile] 2011-03-31 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I do think that amazon will eventually win the ebook battle on sheer magnitude of sales, even if the kindle isn't the absolute best.

Amazon has a huge share of the current ebook market. They're claiming something like 80%. Add to that that there are rumors that they are consistently dropping the price of the Kindle and possibly going to provide some sort of promotion soon for Prime members (free Kindles?) and, well, they'll probably own it.
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[identity profile] 2011-03-31 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Dang. Maybe I should wait.
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[identity profile] 2011-04-01 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
I am a tech buyer for a major US consumer tech chain and I can't go into too much detail but Amazon IS announcing another version of the Kindle within the next two months. It will be less than the popular $139 wifi version.

[identity profile] 2011-04-01 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
That's it. I am TOTALLY waiting. Thanks!!
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[identity profile] 2011-03-31 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I really like my Nook. I guess there's always the possibility of B&N going under but most stuff I've read seems to think that if the worst happened they would simply shut down their brick& mortar stores and stay online, the same way circuit city did. Which is the only part of the store that matters in terms of ereaders. When I bought last summer B&N also had a lot more books offered in ereader format than Amazon.

Other pluses over Kindle: Nook has expandable memory and replaceable battery, can do library books, and can view PDFs.

[identity profile] 2011-03-31 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I do like its features. How's the screen? Does it look like book print?
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[identity profile] 2011-03-31 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
It's great... the e-ink is really nifty. I don't feel like I'm looking at a screen at all. And that's balanced by the little color touchscreen on the bottom which is quite fun.
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[identity profile] 2011-03-31 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
That it is! Nook also has some kind of lending function but I haven't used it so I can't speak to that. But it does exist.

[identity profile] 2011-03-31 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, another nice thing with Nook... you can lend books to other Nook users. The screen is very readable.
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[identity profile] 2011-03-31 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, and I was going to add, if you want to see these in person (I did) the Nooks are on display at B&N, obv (I don't think you can buy them there but you can see how you like the e-ink and navigation and everything) and the Kindle is on display at Target.

[identity profile] 2011-03-31 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm going to have to check these out!
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[identity profile] 2011-03-31 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Enjoy :D

[identity profile] 2011-04-01 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
You can buy them at Barnes and Noble. That's where I got my husband's Nook... they sell them and service them through the store.
Also, our local Best Buy sells both Kindle and Nooks (they have them on adjacent display racks). I saw that yesterday for the first time. I was quite surprised-- they must have made a deal with both companies.
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[identity profile] 2011-04-01 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
Good to know!
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[personal profile] captaintish 2011-04-01 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
most stuff I've read seems to think that if the worst happened they would simply shut down their brick& mortar stores and stay online, the same way circuit city did.

Oooh, that's good to know, because that is something I've worried about, in terms of buying e-books.

[identity profile] 2011-03-31 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Personally I have a Kindle 3rd Gen and I love it. It's light, the battery lasts for weeks, and I've had no issue with most formats.

Getting anything on it is very easy. You just hook the cable up to a USB port and treat it like a USB drive. Just drop things into a folder. The only format that doesn't work is epub, but that's why there is Calibre.

In terms of library, have you heard of the service called Lendle? If you own an ebook bought from Amazon, you can make it available to share to others, and borrow from others as well. You also don't have to do a straight swap because it can do three way swapping as well. You lose the book off your Kindle for a week, just like you would lend a physical book to someone, and then it comes back.

[identity profile] 2011-03-31 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
That Lendle thing has the potential to be pretty cool! The couple of searches I did didn't list anything by the authors I'm interested in, but it could well be that way with librarys too.

[identity profile] 2011-03-31 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
All I can tell you is my husband loves his Nook. We selected it over the Kindle in part because we have a BN close by and if you have trouble with it you can take it and they will help you in store (whereas you need to mail it back with Amazon) plus B and N sends upgrades to the device. We also thought the little tiny keyboard on the Kindle would end up with stick stuff and crumbs in it (that says something about where my husband will read). I've stolen my husband's nook and it's really easy to read.
I'm not wild about looking up the books on the device, but that might be just me. I've not figured out how to quickly search for titles. I'd be surprised if B/N went under any sooner than Amazon... they were smart to move to netsales quickly, while Borders was expanding physical stores.

[identity profile] 2011-03-31 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I forgot to add... you can also preview most books with a Nook before you buy. You get I think the first three chapters to read, so you can 'browse' and decide if you like a book or not before purchase.

[identity profile] 2011-03-31 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Very handy!

[identity profile] 2011-03-31 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I also have a pretty big B&N near me. It's nice to know that you can take it in if you have any problems with it.

Crumbs! :D I probably wouldn't have that kind of problem.
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[identity profile] 2011-03-31 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I like that there's a physical store too... plus it's nice to know that if the battery goes I don't have to send the whole thing in to India or wherever Kindles are repaired ;) And yes, the touchscreen on the Nook is quite nice.
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[personal profile] captaintish 2011-04-01 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
This is the biggest thing to me. I want it to look like paper and not a video screen.

Then, I would say Nook or Kindle are both your best bet.

Ease of uploading fic. I still have most of The Altverse series to go through, after all. :)

I'm right there with you -- I mostly read fic on my nook. It is super easy to copy and paste any text off the Internet and then convert it to PDF, and load it on my Nook. Plus, as far as the alt-verse goes, [ profile] papilio_luna made the most beautiful epub for it. It's absolutely gorgeous.

Borders has already gone down the drain, what if B&N goes bye-bye?

Ah yes, this worries me too. But I will say there are ways to convert files. There is a program called Calibre, and I have bought a couple of books from Amazon and been able to convert them into epub format for my Nook.

Battery Life -- I charge my Nook every 3 or 4 days. I use it a lot, though -- so much fic!!!

I take it to read in bed too, and it's very comfortable. I fall asleep to re-reads of In Human Hands (which when I made it into a PDF, turned out to be about 600 pages) and all my favorite TenII stories. :D

The Nook has a touch pad. Its...... okay. All I really care about is that turning pages is easy -- just clicking a button. The thing is the Kindle has that big stupid keyboard, which I would hardly ever use, so I definitely prefer my little touchpad.

I honestly have no idea how to go about getting Library e-books -- it would be cool -- but for instance, do you have to have a San Diego library card to get library ebooks?

I don't want to be squinting to read, but I don't want to hold something giant.

With the Nook, you can change font size to ANYTHING you want. :D

[identity profile] 2011-04-01 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
The Altverse will probably be one of the first things I upload. I can't wait!

I like hearing that it makes good bedtime reading. *WANTS*

And I think you do need a SD library card to do the ebooks.

[identity profile] 2011-04-01 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
I spend half my work day selling NOOKs, so if you have any questions about that in particular feel free to message me. (I also do NOOK classes at our store.) I will say that I have added books from local library to my NOOK. (The first thing I sideloaded was The Chaosverse, which my friend converted to PDF and gave me for Christmas. I've also bookmarked on my little web browser. Ah, the life of a fic lover.)

I went with the original NOOK (with the e-ink screen) myself and I don't have an ounce of regret. I wanted something that looked like a book-not a computer screen. Plus, I didn't need it to multitask. I have too many other devices that can sing and dance for me. I wanted a reader.

[identity profile] 2011-04-02 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
So you must be pretty much an expert!

And I'm exactly like you - I want an electronic book, not another laptop.

[identity profile] 2011-04-01 11:47 am (UTC)(link)
There are a number of ebookstore sites that aren't tied to a specific type of reader - you can buy/download in whatever format you need, be it mobi, epub, or even pdf. So even if b&n went away completely, you should still be able to find ebooks for a nook.

[identity profile] 2011-04-02 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
That's good to know! I imagine that Amazon format can only be gotten from Amazon.