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mrv3000 ([personal profile] mrv3000) wrote2010-08-03 09:56 am
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HP

I remembered I actually own some HP movies! (Boredom + Target = things I don't really need.)



  • I started to write a list of which characters were better in the book and which were better in the movie and which were just plain different. But I got a bit bored, so let's just say that the default for a character is that their book version is better than their movie version. More often than not, this is the case. There are some exceptions.

    • Draco is more rounded in the movies. In the books he basically turns up whenever the scene calls for a douchebag and then leaves. On the screen we see a bit more.

    • Neville is an odd case. The movies seem to have made him more awesome than what he is the books. (e.g., being an amazing dancer or being the one to give Harry the gillyweed) Don't get me wrong, I like Neville and this isn't some kind of "THIS CHARACTER MUST STAY IN HIS PLACE" thing. Just pointing out differences.

    • Dumbledore is also a strange case. I like both versions, but the Dumbledore you see on screen really isn't the Dumbledore you see in the books. Until I read the books, I had the impression that Harry and Dumbledore hung out together practically all the time, while in the books Harry really doesn't see him very often.

    • I like Snape better in the movies probably because Alan Rickman gives Snape a slight badass vibe, where in the book I found Snape to be fairly pathetic. Not necessarily in a "he's such a wuss" way, but more in a "I'm going to torment children because I was picked on in school" way. Loads of people get tormented as kids, but they manage to LET IT GO.

  • I can, with reluctance, understand why they made Cho the one to turn in the D.A.: it was an easy way to have the Harry/Cho relationship disappear, and you simply don't have the time to put everything into a movie. But still it was sucky for Cho to be the scapegoat on that one.

  • Why in the world did they burn down the Burrow in the movies? That's...what? Why? It was this entire extra scene that wasn't in the books. Was there some kind of production note that said "NEEDS MORE FLAMES"? O_o

  • Amazingly enough, the movie managed to point out even more than the book just how much the "Half Blood Prince" reveal didn't matter in the slightest. XD

    Snape: THAT'S RIGHT! I AM THE HALF BLOOD PRINCE!!

    Harry: NOO-- Hold on. Do...do I need to care about that? I mean, you just killed Dumbledore. I'm just saying. Perspective and all, since the textbook was more handy than evil.

    Snape: YES YOU NEED TO CARE. BECAUSE MY BOOK HAD SNAPE COOTIES.

    Harry: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

[identity profile] goldy-dollar.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG

MICHELLE

YOU ARE GETTING BUTTHURT ABOUT WHAT IS/ISN'T IN THE MOVIES

WELCOME TO HARRY POTTER FANDOM

I feel like I should give you a star or a plaque or something.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooooh, it's shiny!!! :D

[identity profile] goldy-dollar.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Next stop: SHIPPING WARS. XD
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[identity profile] aj.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
*rubs hands together in delight*

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
AWESOME.

[identity profile] fiona-conn.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
# I like Snape better in the movies probably because Alan Rickman gives Snape a slight badass vibe, where in the book I found Snape to be fairly pathetic. Not necessarily in a "he's such a wuss" way, but more in a "I'm going to torment children because I was picked on in school" way. Loads of people get tormented as kids, but they manage to LET IT GO.

Or in some cases, it even makes us better people.

I actually haven't seen anything beyond the Goblet of Fire movie. I suppose some of the extra might have been JK offering hints and tips as she supposedly does to the crew/cast.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
It would be interesting to know what she's collaborated on. Shifting things around to make things fit in 2-ish hours I can understand. But a completely new, seemingly unrelated-to-anything scene makes me boggle a bit.

[identity profile] fiona-conn.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 05:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Now that you've seen the movies and read the books, here's a piece of fan "fic" (well, it's more a snarky reference guide) I think you might appreciate: http://www.sugarquill.net/read.php?storyid=656&chapno=1

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I could spend all day there! XD

[identity profile] fiona-conn.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
As it was written a few years ago, prior to OoTP probably, there are a few places where the entries as sort of... "funny aneurism moments" (I'm taking it you're a Troper), and stuff feels slightly hollow now, but I remember finding it for the first time and doing a lot of laughing while reading it. :)

[identity profile] janetmaca.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Why in the world did they burn down the Burrow in the movies? That's...what? Why? It was this entire extra scene that wasn't in the books. Was there some kind of production note that said "NEEDS MORE FLAMES"? O_o


THANK YOU!

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
It makes no sense to me. It's not like they needed that scene for the plot. It's just...there. Out of nowhere. :D

[identity profile] janetmaca.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe they needed to build up Ginny's awesomeness? Or create an epic Christmas scene and didn't want to go "well, Percy had a fight with his parents long ago hence the blows they come to here"? Wait, was that the one where Percy was supposed to show up at the Burrow?

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/ 2010-08-03 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I believe the official line was that they wanted to really "bring home" the danger of the climate in HBP -- things that JKR did with random people getting called out of class to be told their parents had been killed etc.

It was still weird. And they seemed to watse all their effort on that instead of doing the Epic Hogwarts Battle.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it could have beem more effective to see devastated classmates.

[identity profile] janetmaca.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I heard they avoided the epic Hogwarts battle because of epic Hogwarts batter part deux in DH.

[identity profile] zinke.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 05:24 pm (UTC)(link)
"NEEDS MORE FLAMES"

Clearly, they should have just gone out searching the highways for a flaming sofa instead.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)
No kidding! :D
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[personal profile] got_swagger 2010-08-03 05:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm really glad that they bumped Neville up in the movies (He's my favorite HP character, hands down.), especially considering what they did to Ron. I like it when the characters are similar to their book counterparts, but since Ron got the shaft in the movies, I'm glad that at least Neville didn't.

Does that make any sense?

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Makes a bit of sense, although I'm still rolling my eyes at what they did to Ron.
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[personal profile] got_swagger 2010-08-03 05:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm still rolling my eyes at what they did to Ron.

YOU AND ME BOTH. HE CAN BE SUCH A DOUCHE IN THE BOOKS BUT HE'S A GOOD PERSON AT HEART.

*HUGGLES HER RON*

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Also he's less of an idiot in the books.
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[personal profile] got_swagger 2010-08-03 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
So true.

The Doctor would not approve of the ginger being dumbed down and douched up in the movies.

[identity profile] acciochocolate.livejournal.com 2010-08-04 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
I love this whole sub-thread!

Have never liked Ron being the comedic relief in the films.

[identity profile] janetmaca.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree so much. *glomps you and Ron*

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/ 2010-08-03 05:36 pm (UTC)(link)
BUT HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE HARRY/HERMIONE AGENDA

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
XD XD XD

In the earlier movies you can really tell that there are supposed to be moments between them. One that stands out in my mind is when Hermione goes to the dance and Harry's ogling at her, which didn't happen in the book. But that kind of stuff seems to disappear in the later movies.

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/ 2010-08-03 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
lol I'm pretty sure the scriptwriter admitted to being a Harry/Hermione shipper at one point. It was pretty funny.

[identity profile] acciochocolate.livejournal.com 2010-08-04 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
Or the whole business when they are out in the snow in the film.

[identity profile] jessicaqueen.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
"Needs more flames". *snorfles* You know what this makes me think of? The 'Hollywood Director' game on Whose Line Is It Anyway.

On the set of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince:
"That was crap! You're all crap! It needs more movement, more excitement, more ... flames! I know, this time do it like arsonists!"

Sorry if you have no clue what I'm on about.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[identity profile] sesaworuban.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
As always, you take something that I'm a bit 'Meh' about and make it very cool and fun. :D

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
:D Thanks!

[identity profile] nicachick007.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I like Snape better in the movies probably because Alan Rickman gives Snape a slight badass vibe, where in the book I found Snape to be fairly pathetic. Not necessarily in a "he's such a wuss" way, but more in a "I'm going to torment children because I was picked on in school" way. Loads of people get tormented as kids, but they manage to LET IT GO.

This is so extremely true. I love Movie!Snape way more than Book!Snape, which is saying a lot because I'm a book person and usually am like "OMG Book always trumps movie!" And no, this is not because I was in love with Alan Rickman beforehand; I didn't even know who Alan Rickman WAS before Harry Potter. Because I am of the TRUE HP Generation, which means I was 11 when the first book came out, and then stayed the same age as the characters as the saga progressed. We are an awesome select few.

So for me, Alan Rickman will always be Snape.

And that is why I lurve him. Even if he does have Snape cooties.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
He relly is a lot of fun to watch! And it gets that Robin Hood movie out of the brain for me. (I loathe that movie.)

[identity profile] nicachick007.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't even know he was IN any Robin Hood movie... But anytime I see him in anything, I'm like, "Hey look, it's Snape!" And then, invariably, there's like 5 other people in that movie that have also been in the HP movies... take the new Alice in Wonderland, for example.

re: HP books vs. movies?

[identity profile] acciochocolate.livejournal.com 2010-08-04 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
I prefer the book Dumbledore, certainly. Neither of the two actors on screen quite gets it, IMHO.

Alas, I saw the first movie (taken by friends right after a bad break-up) and only then read the books, and it took a while, at that. So to me, I always see Alan Rickman as Snape, even in the books.

In fact, in the first novel, there's some reference to Snape wanting to cancel Christmas, which is exactly like Rickman's Sheriff of Nottingham in that otherwise forgettable movie, "Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves". :)

At this point, I've read so much HP fanfic that it colors the way I see the characters in the books and the films. This isn't a good or bad thing, so to speak, *shrugs* it's just the way it is.

Thanks for this HP posting bit. Got me thinking about the whole HP thing again. However, not planning on reading the books again for a while.

Re: HP books vs. movies?

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-04 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
I remember someone mentioning that they've read so much fanfic they have a hard time remembering what's actually canon and what's fanon. And HP is such an unusual beast I don't think I really see it as a good or bad thing either. Normally I'm a canon whore, but when you've already got the books and movies contradicting each other (with both having obvious flaws), I'm feeling a lot less "BUT THIS IS CANON" about it all. :D

[identity profile] acciochocolate.livejournal.com 2010-08-04 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
So, to finish what I was saying, it's obvious to me that Jo always saw AR as Snape. :)

As for the burning down of the Burrow, where are they gonna have Bill and Fleur's wedding? Or is that yet another plot point that's left out in the films? *shakes fist at scriptwriters*

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-04 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
It was just WEIRD. WEIRD!!