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AMY, YOU WHORE.

*DISOWNS*

I was going to click other and comment how attacking the actual actor/actress was a much more effective way to go... then decided I should keep this plan of attack to myself for the element of surprise.

Oooh, sneaky!

LOOK AT THOSE SKIRTS

I CAN SEE HER ANKLES

WELL ACTUALLY I CAN'T BECAUSE SHE USUALLY WEARS BOOTS

I CAN SEE HER KNEES!!

... what, AGAIN??? *sigh*

Nothing will distract fandom from Rose's NUMEROUS FLAWS better than me pointing out that their favourite is a dirty Mary Sue, clearly!

I'm not sure you can say again when it never stops. :D

It's gotta work!

Bah. Why is it always women vs. women? WE MUST RANK THEM IN ORDER OF THEIR WORTH.

THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE, MICHELLE

IF YOU LIKE A SUBSEQUENT COMPANION MORE YOU MUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT ALL HER PREDECESSORS WERE WEAK AND INFERIOR. And if you like a subsequent companion less you must acknowledge that it is ALL OR NOTHING and if she is not EVEN BETTER than what came before she is automatically a bazillion times worse and is a detriment to the feminist movement.

Edited 2011-01-23 17:46 (UTC)

*takes notes*

I always approach these situations with arguments to the contrary. To deflect criticism on another character is an admittance that your character is a bit crap. Basically 'So yes, my character's crap but yours is crapper' The best way I find is the 'Rose has' example

Rose has an axe to rescue the doctor...she's so selfish don't you think?
Rose has a bolt gun to rescue the doctor...she's not brave at all?
Rose has a giant blasting gun to save the world from the Daleks...she's useless right?
etc...

In another fandom, Smallville
Kara has been staying in the phantom zone to protect humanity...she's not a hero?
Kara has flown back in time...she's so useless?
Kara has saved a street full of spectators...she's a vain bitch?

What is it with me? I always become fans of characters with irrational hate against them

But...you're using canon! I don't think canon is allowed in fannish arguments. ;)

Also remember that women can totally be strong, as long as they don't do any of that girly stuff. Blech.

Oooh, I heard that! Like crying? And wearing a dress? And having feelings about things?

*blinks* Did something happen.

NO. DON'T TELL ME.

:-X

Having emotion is bad too. Unless it is MANLY EMOTION like rage or revenge or ~smugness~ or something.

AND SHE THROWS HERSELF AROUND ON MEN ALL THE TIME. LIKE......... THAT ONE TIME SHE KISSED ELEVEN.

SHE'S A KISSOGRAM WHICH IS BASICALLY LIKE A PROSTITUTE AND PROSTITUTES AREN'T REAL PEOPLE

Well, yeah.

But don't forget that being strong is also aggressive, immature, and bitchy if by chance the character is question is one that we feel gets in the way of another character's awesomeness. The same holds true for independent thinking. It is only okay once we've decided we like the character, otherwise it is an unforgivable flaw.

I think you left out "must never fall in love." Because caring about people is all girly and stuff and women are only valuable if they don't care about anyone else, or (HEAVENS) get married or (OMG NO) have children.

This is so handy!

*takes more notes*

I was gonna say PIC SPAMS are a great way to show how awesome characters are because then no one can argue that it did, in fact happen and that their blinders must have prevented them from seeing it!!!!

and little headings underneath are always a plus

Though, haters are gonna hate no matter what.

The big lesson is this: If you like the character then ALL of their traits are good. If you don't like the character, ALL of those same traits are bad. It's really very simple.

I think you have to turn in your feminist card if you have a family. A true feminist only has flings.

Oh, Fandom!Secrets.

Yay for picspams! :D

But yeah. Canon seems to have no effect once you're in hate mode.

Well obviously women only get married and have children when they have no other aspirations in life and have lost all notion of personality and become nothing but clingy blobs attached to their men!

*sighs*

I know that was an important part of my marriage vows!

I promise to love, honor, obey, and become an empty vessel made only for your pleasure.

True that. I've made a habit of mostly ignoring it, though, so it seems new when someone brings it up. :-D

lolol our marriage vows didn't even include anything about "death doing us part" or "forever and ever" or anything like that, because fuck knows what's going to happen in the future and we didn't want to make the other feel like they were breaking vows by getting out if things turn bad. But then again, we trust each other to not to abuse that privilege.

/cool story, marrieds

The third option. Duh. Oh, also, gifs. If you can combine the two, it's an automatic win! (Hint: It's not an automatic win)

YAY!

AWESOME.

*watches from the sidelines*

*watches you watching*