mrv3000 | Things that make you go "hmmm."

"OMG, I love you two! *squishes*"

That's the way I feel when I look at that icon. Awwwww.

When it comes to particular pairings, I suppose I just can't imagine either person with someone else. It totally depends on the characters and the fandom. Some fandoms, I have no specific pairings I can point to; Battlestar Galactica comes to mind. On the other end of the spectrum, well, there's Doctor Who. And there are also some fandoms where I can read pretty much anyone with anyone (up to a point, anyway), and some where putting them with anyone else is just wrong, somehow. *shrug* I can't tell you what pushes me over the threshold, I can just tell you when I'm past it. :-)

That's the way I feel when I look at that icon. Awwwww.

I know! I can't help the squee! I have no idea the root reason behind the squee, but yet there is squee.

When it comes to particular pairings, I suppose I just can't imagine either person with someone else. It totally depends on the characters and the fandom. Some fandoms, I have no specific pairings I can point to; Battlestar Galactica comes to mind. On the other end of the spectrum, well, there's Doctor Who.

Yeah, I'd say I'm very similar. There's a broad spectrum of pairing-ness. BSG would be on the other end of the scale for me as well.

And there are also some fandoms where I can read pretty much anyone with anyone (up to a point, anyway), and some where putting them with anyone else is just wrong, somehow. *shrug* I can't tell you what pushes me over the threshold, I can just tell you when I'm past it. :-)

Yeah, I hear you. Again, very similar. Not exactly sure why or how I get to that point with some pairs though. Hmm.

I am a longtime soap fan. Since I was five at my grandmother's knee. There are couples I have watched going on over twenty years. When I fall for a couple, I fall hard. It is not just the romantic aspect. It is the chemistry, the banter, the spark, the tension, the history, the story, the journey. The ups, the downs, the good, the bad and everything in between. I can't help it. I am an unrepentent couples person.

I just go with whatever pairings end up giving me the warm fuzzies. It definitely doesn't happen with every show/book/movie that I happen to like, but when it does I can't avoid it. I either don't care about the characters' romantic lives one way or the other, or I get that little heart *ping* with every remotely smooshy moment between a certain couple.

Adult fic actually weirds me out a little. I mean, it's like I've gotten to know the characters so porn becomes very voyueristic and creepy, if that makes any sense.

Oh, god, I hate heaving-bosom romances, and I think this somehow translates to my dislike of the typical "soulmates" on television series.

I'm attracted to ships that aren't easy, and aren't obviously meant to be together, or if they are, they still have large problems or at least a large amount of verbal banter.

I need ships that are full of conflict, not necessarily like cheating or lying or anything, but some sort of spark that keeps thing duly at each other's throats and at each other's side. I like ships like Jess and Rory, and Kate and Sawyer, and Mulder and Scully. I need to feel like the people that are the relationship are equals, at least in each other's eyes.

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And I like pretty ones? I should possibly not think about why fictional relationships affect me so much. ;)

Wow, I can't believe there are couples that have been around for 20 years! Now that's a long-term ship!

Yeah, I do love all that you mentioned. Preferably lighter on the melodrama for me. I don't get bored with plain old happy people, which is a bit nuts, I admit. :D

I just go with whatever pairings end up giving me the warm fuzzies. It definitely doesn't happen with every show/book/movie that I happen to like, but when it does I can't avoid it. I either don't care about the characters' romantic lives one way or the other, or I get that little heart *ping* with every remotely smooshy moment between a certain couple.

Yes! That's it exactly! :)

Adult fic actually weirds me out a little. I mean, it's like I've gotten to know the characters so porn becomes very voyueristic and creepy, if that makes any sense.

No, I get that. There are some characters I feel the same way about to some degree. Where I do get fully creeped out is when it's obvious the author is doing a bit of one-handed writing. *SHUDDER*

I'm attracted to ships that aren't easy, and aren't obviously meant to be together, or if they are, they still have large problems or at least a large amount of verbal banter.

Oooh, you like the angsty ones!

I need ships that are full of conflict, not necessarily like cheating or lying or anything, but some sort of spark that keeps thing duly at each other's throats and at each other's side. I like ships like Jess and Rory, and Kate and Sawyer, and Mulder and Scully. I need to feel like the people that are the relationship are equals, at least in each other's eyes.

I did have one ship that was like this - Jarod/Miss Parker of The Pretender. The ultimate in fucked-up relationships and I loved it for that very reason. I think I would have absolutely hated it if they had gotten together and lived happily ever after. *Very* different from what I usually ship, which is usually more fluffy stuff. But still, it was a similar sort of reaction - the squee whenever something would happen in an ep. Of course, whatever happened in the ep was always deeply twisted. Heh.

And I like pretty ones? I should possibly not think about why fictional relationships affect me so much. ;)

*snickers*

Good question. I don't imagine myself in the place of one of the pair, but I often have something in common with the gal and am attracted to the guy ... and probably more than anything, I wish I had what they have.

I had things in common with Amanda King, and Lee/Amanda is probably my #1 OTP ever. I have things in common with Sam, and Sam/Jack is my #2 OTP. On the other hand, Syd/Vaughn were just pretty.

BTW, it's "tippets".

I don't get bored with plain old happy people, which is a bit nuts, I admit. :D
That's not crazy at all. I am frequently surprised by how much angst and misunderstanding fans like to see in their ships. What's wrong with a little happiness? Seriously. That's part of what makes Doctor/Rose so attractive to me. They LIKE each other. Time War PTSD and other issues aside, they enjoy the heck out of each other's company. And yes, your icon is seriously squishable.

Oooh, you like the angsty ones!

Oh, to say the very, very, very least. One time I tried to think of a ship of mine that ended up happy together...and I came up with Elizabeth/Darcy. Which is rather sad, I think.

I think I would have absolutely hated it if they had gotten together and lived happily ever after.

Ahh, yes, my greatest problem with my ships. I tend to ship things that work better when it's not an actual relationship. My ships tend to bank on the tension and the "will they just rip each other's clothes off soon?" type of arc. Like, with Mulder and Scully...it wasn't about the kiss, it was about what led up to the kiss. Everything after was kind of...eh.

And even while I love my *ahem* messed-up, angsty, bickery ships...there are ships like Lee/Kara with that same general idea, that sort of...completely bug me entirely. Because I feel like there's this complete inequality between them. I think Lee respects Kara's abilities, but I never felt like he respected HER, and I suppose vice versa. But that's always why I could never let myself ship them. And possibly why Lee to this day...gets under my skin.

So I liked messed up angst, so long as one person doesn't end up subordinant. ;)

Oh, the inner-workings of my brain.

Oooh, good Saturday morning (erm, afternoon) question.

I'd have to say that the ultimate pull for me for ships that I absolutely adore, would be the balance of power, a power struggle or that just by having someone so close that you can be with lets the dominant partner be vulnerable for a little while. Don't know if that makes a whole lot of sense, but it works with Mulder/Scully, Shep/Weir, John/Aeryn and Spike/Buffy to different degrees (and in my mind it works for Nine/Rose, heh).

If one of my ships has an omg I need you and can't/won't/don't want to live without you moment, I just melt (like ooh, in Bad Wolf when Nine is looking at Rose's "dust" on the floor). If Shep/Weir have an argument over which of them is right because they both reckon they're in charge, I melt.

I like cute when it's in context, when it means something to the characters because cute doesn't happen very often in their verse. Mulder/Scully did cute really well.

I am frequently surprised by how much angst and misunderstanding fans like to see in their ships.

I can see the appeal. The path that's not easy - the relationship that's not all sunshine and roses. It's not generally my taste, but I can see why people like it. I can handle the angst for a little while, depending on how well it's written. When it gets into the never-ending UST category, then I start to question if the characters have brain damage or something and that's probably not what show writers are looking for.

What's wrong with a little happiness? Seriously. That's part of what makes Doctor/Rose so attractive to me. They LIKE each other. Time War PTSD and other issues aside, they enjoy the heck out of each other's company.

Yep, totally. When every other show out there is pushing the will they/won't they get together thing, it was *so* nice to see a pair that had really no reason to angst about their relationship and just enjoyed the hell out of each other. Like a breath of fresh air, it was.

And yes, your icon is seriously squishable.

Thanks. :)

My ships tend to bank on the tension and the "will they just rip each other's clothes off soon?" type of arc. Like, with Mulder and Scully...it wasn't about the kiss, it was about what led up to the kiss. Everything after was kind of...eh.

Yeah, it kinda was just blah after that. I guess that's a downfall of the super-charged angst/UST onscreen relationship - you can't really ever get them together.

And even while I love my *ahem* messed-up, angsty, bickery ships...there are ships like Lee/Kara with that same general idea, that sort of...completely bug me entirely. Because I feel like there's this complete inequality between them. I think Lee respects Kara's abilities, but I never felt like he respected HER, and I suppose vice versa. But that's always why I could never let myself ship them. And possibly why Lee to this day...gets under my skin.

Hmm. That's interesting. I'm very indifferent to Lee/Kara myself. If they go that route, fine. If not, also fine. But that's interesting about the inequality. Never really thought of them like that. I think you may be right - I think he may constantly want Kara to be better than what she actually is, and so in that regard she'll always disappoint him. Hmm.

Nope, I likes me some cute too. There's just certain pairings, for me anyway, that I can't conjure up teh secks, and I don't really feel the need to. I just want to pinch their cheeks and cuddle them (in a non-sexual way of course ;).

Good question. I don't imagine myself in the place of one of the pair, but I often have something in common with the gal and am attracted to the guy ... and probably more than anything, I wish I had what they have.

Ah, gotcha. Not the people you want, but the relationship?

I had things in common with Amanda King, and Lee/Amanda is probably my #1 OTP ever. I have things in common with Sam, and Sam/Jack is my #2 OTP. On the other hand, Syd/Vaughn were just pretty.

Awww! I used to watch Scarecrow & Mrs. King ages ago. They were so cute. :)

BTW, it's "tippets".

D'oh! Yes. :D

I'd have to say that the ultimate pull for me for ships that I absolutely adore, would be the balance of power, a power struggle or that just by having someone so close that you can be with lets the dominant partner be vulnerable for a little while. Don't know if that makes a whole lot of sense, but it works with Mulder/Scully, Shep/Weir, John/Aeryn and Spike/Buffy to different degrees (and in my mind it works for Nine/Rose, heh).

Oooh, interesting. No, that makes sense. A relationship where someone who's normally closed off to people/outwardly impenetrable, can be open and vulnerable with the other in the pair just because it's that person.

If one of my ships has an omg I need you and can't/won't/don't want to live without you moment, I just melt (like ooh, in Bad Wolf when Nine is looking at Rose's "dust" on the floor).

Yeah. *pats the Doctor*

If Shep/Weir have an argument over which of them is right because they both reckon they're in charge, I melt.

I haven't seen much of SGA, but I can easily picture these two in an argument like this and it makes me grin.

I like cute when it's in context, when it means something to the characters because cute doesn't happen very often in their verse. Mulder/Scully did cute really well.

Yeah, they did. :)

Yeah, I hear you. I would have *absolutely* no desire to read Charlie/Claire (Lost) sex, probably because it would be like reading about puppies having sex or something. ;) To a lesser extent, the Doctor and Rose also, however if it was *good* fic... Cannot stress "good" enough. And to me "good" does NOT equal "hawt." *rolls eyes*

Oooh, interesting. No, that makes sense. A relationship where someone who's normally closed off to people/outwardly impenetrable, can be open and vulnerable with the other in the pair just because it's that person.

Yes, exactly! That's how I would have explained it if I was coherent this morning ::g::

*snicker* Yeah, definitely hear ya on D/R. I guess for me it comes from years of watching DW and, while I did ship a bit, never really went there.

I definetly fall for the "cute" pairings. I don't often see the unconventional pairings until a second or thirding viewing/reading of the source material or someone else suggests it. Typically, whatever the show is trying to force as the main 'ship, I'll gobble up unless I really despise one character/actor. I don't really go for sex appeal either, I mean, it's nice if pairing have a spark of chemistry, but I like longevity more than just a good night in bed, so it wot impress me much unless they are kind to one another. And I don't think that I have EVER put myself in the pairing.

I think the easiest way to get me to fall for a 'ship? Start with one actor/actress I already love from a past project add one new and interesting co-star stir in some laughs and you've got a recipe for a fluffy lovenest!!

Typically, whatever the show is trying to force as the main 'ship, I'll gobble up unless I really despise one character/actor.

Yeah, I tend to go for the typical canon pairings myself.

I don't really go for sex appeal either, I mean, it's nice if pairing have a spark of chemistry, but I like longevity more than just a good night in bed, so it wot impress me much unless they are kind to one another.

Yeah, it has to go way beyond sex for me as well. I do like to see that element, though.

And I don't think that I have EVER put myself in the pairing.

Probably because you have a good grip on reality. :)

I think the easiest way to get me to fall for a 'ship? Start with one actor/actress I already love from a past project add one new and interesting co-star stir in some laughs and you've got a recipe for a fluffy lovenest!!

Fluffy lovenest! AWWW! Don't know why, but that term is making me giggle. :)

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