mrv3000: made by elismor (DW - Stargate)
mrv3000 ([personal profile] mrv3000) wrote2007-01-23 12:49 pm
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Down the rabbit hole...

I said I wasn't going to play TPTB's game. I believe even the phrase "kiss my ass" was involved. But here I am. *sigh* I'm *sure* this has been discussed elsewhere, but I'm still living in my own little world.



Somehow I totally spaced on the fact that the end of Torchwood *wasn't* the first time that "Bad Wolf" and Torchwood had met. Which was a "duh" moment for me since I'd been cackling at the [livejournal.com profile] elismor DT letter at the time, which was *because* Bad Wolf had popped up before.

"Now when it comes to the Doctor's companion, the Torchwood files are strangely lacking. It seems the evidence has been corrupted, something called 'Bad Wolf' virus. At least we've got these photographs." ~ Love & Monsters

That's always bugged the crap out of me. A theory was floated that maybe it actually had been the Doctor who corrupted the files, and simply used "Bad Wolf" as a name for the hell of it. If this virus was done by him prior to Army of Ghosts/Doomsday, why only destroy info about Rose? Why not also about himself? I'm thinking he wouldn't exactly be pleased about someone collecting info on him. And after Army of Ghosts/Doomsday, why destroy info about Rose at all? What would be his motivation? If Torchwood *was* writing his supposed "complete history*," wouldn't he want Rose to have a mention? All kidding aside, he'd probably even want Jackie to have a mention.

Hmm. Was this virus ever mentioned in the Torchwood series?

But combine this with the Bad Wolf graffiti behind Jack, and it's looking more and more like BadWolf!Rose got up to something - something beyond what happened on the game station in The Parting of the Ways, and it involves Jack. What exactly this something is, remains to be seen. And why exactly BadWolf!Rose felt the need to erase Rose's information...I'm at a loss at the moment.

[insert standard plea for no BP guest spots - permanent return or nothing]

* Yeah, I know. The writing a complete history thing was pretty much a joke. But it was obvious that Torchwood knew about the Doctor and the Doctor didn't seem all that irked at that point.

Hold me, Old Who. You who felt no need to plant clues for 3 series, leading up to the fact that the Brigadier was a giant hamster.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2007-01-23 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh heh. Well, if you want to call it Time - it was Rose when she was possessed by the Time Vortex. I call that BadWolf!Rose. She/it scattered the words into her past travels with the Doctor, so Rose would see them when they showed up. (Only a byproduct that the Doctor noticed it as well.)

And it would *seem* that scattering the words into Rose's past wasn't the only thing she did - she hit Jack in Torchwood for some odd reason. Now, TPTB *could* have made us loopy by later claiming that where Jack was walking, the Doctor and Rose had been as well - we just never saw it. But that seems convoluted, even for them. And combine Jack's Bad Wolf with the Bad Wolf Virus, and something seems fishy.
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[identity profile] grav-ity.livejournal.com 2007-01-23 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
And it would *seem* that scattering the words into Rose's past wasn't the only thing she did - she hit Jack in Torchwood for some odd reason.

See, that's what made me think it's the Doctor-o-meter. You see the words and he appears. Like the time traveling equivalent of Bloody Mary.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2007-01-23 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I gotcha. Well, if it was a Doctor-o-meter, you'd think we would have still seen Bad Wolf everywhere during S2...
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[identity profile] grav-ity.livejournal.com 2007-01-23 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay....Doctor/End of the World-o-meter.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2007-01-23 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
EEK! Jackie's gonna get pregnant again, isn't she?!

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2007-01-23 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh! Just thought of this. No, I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of DW at my fingertips...yet.

Bad Wolf appeared in TPotW when only Rose was there. After the Doctor sent her home. Showed up when she was in the restaurant with her mum and Mickey, and also with the big words on the blacktop and surrounding areas.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2007-01-23 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course, why it would show up for just Jack makes NO sense. At all. None. Dammit, we're gonna get a giant hamster at the end of S3, aren't we?

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2007-01-23 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Rather like how erasing Rose's info makes NO sense...

THE GIANT HAMSTER DID IT!

*goes mad*