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mrv3000 ([personal profile] mrv3000) wrote2007-03-18 06:30 pm
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DW: Trial of a Time Lord

Trial of a Time Lord Series

The Mysterious Planet (Six, Peri)
  • Oh, Six. You know that dumb game where you tack on "in bed" when reading fortune cookies? I swear you could tack on "and fuck you too!" to just about everything Six says. :D

  • Ah ha! Reference to the Doctor no longer being the President of Gallifrey. Deposed due to lack of interest. HA! So definitely not President during the Time War, whether or not you accept audio canon.

  • The Doctor: Oh Christ on a cracker! Do we have to sit here and watch Peri getting emotional?! Don't you have a fast forward button?! (I think I may love Six.)

  • And the Doctor says he's 900. I wonder if even the Doctor knows how old he is. On the one hand I could see him just not keeping track. On the other, don't know if it'd be *possible* for the Doctor to lose track. He probably bullshits his age most the time. Of course, maybe not that many years are supposed to have passed from Six to Nine.

  • The Time Lords really would be pissed about Rose, wouldn't they? Yikes. I'm thinking she'd very much fall under the "unbefitting a Time Lord" category. Never mind the whole Doctor falling for her thing, she opened up the time vortex and used that power. She'd get her memory wiped...if she was lucky.

  • Seems like everybody and their brother's dog has heard of the Time Lords and Gallifrey.

  • I'm kinda wondering why Peri's traveling with the Doctor. She doesn't seem to really like it much.

  • Well, it's obvious the Doctor's being set up, what with the robot and the sleepers gaining access to "the secrets" which I'm betting means they got access to the Time Lord matrix. And the Doctor wandered in and accidentally mucked things up, wrecking someone's plans. Probably the Master or something.


Mind Warp (Six, Peri)
  • This one started out pretty slow - the plot that they "watch" during the trial involves slugs performing mind-altering experiments on humans and other creatures to make them more passive.

  • The prosecution did have a point about the Doctor playing judge, jury and executioner. He does that *constantly.* But I think an even worse crime would be to stand idly by, allowing crimes against the universe. There is that fuzzy line though - of what's helping and what's doing something for your own personal whim. And you get people like the Master doing the latter, so instead of bothering with constantly trying to figure out where that line is, they've chucked it all and declared that any sort of involvement is bad. It's actually a pretty lazy and irresponsible use of power. Sort of like having a power generator but making everyone use candles since if they turned on the power generator, it *might* be used in the creation of weapons.

  • The story picked up a bit once there was a question of what really happened since the Doctor's memory was faulty and supposedly the Matrix never lies. (And since it was mentioned, it most likely is lying.)

  • "Sil, stop gyrating your fruit!" I'm just not exactly sure what that's supposed to mean as there weren't any apples in the vicinity...

  • It's rare seeing an episode end badly for a Companion. And to lose her hair in the process. Poor Peri.


Terror of the Vervoids (Six, Mel)
  • Awww. Poor Doctor sad about Peri.

  • HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Mel put the Doctor on a diet! :D She'd probably be ecstatic with Ten.

  • I really don't like this whole idea of looking at a story that happens in the Doctor's future. Just because as Time Lords, you'd think they'd know that the very act of watching future events would then quite possibly lead to changing those events. Another thing I'm not wild about with these "episodes" in this series, you're getting a sometimes altered view of the Doctor and so you can't really tell what's true to character and what's not. And for me watching the old episodes, I like all the backstory to give me a more complete picture of who the Doctor is, and we never really see the truth here.

  • Mel being able to scream with a gas mask on is highly impressive.

  • I was a bit confused about the Vervites (the plant people) - were they genetically created by the scientists? Or did they pre-exist but their cells were what got mixed up with the humans, causing that woman hybrid? Oh wait - they got carried on board by the scientists? Or something?

  • I'm getting a bit lost. I'm not sure why this one guy wanted to drive the ship into the black hole. And then five second later they're being hijacked. Okay, hijack is over, plant people are killing people but they're not the "murderers." Yup, this episode is trotting off without me.

  • Ah, so the Doctor was a "walking genocide" even before the Time War. No, really. He was. No wonder he hates talking about his past - his closet has probably the most skeletons in the universe.


The Ultimate Foe (Six, Mel)
  • WHAT? Okay, so the Master shows up *inside* the Matrix, proving the Matrix has been compromised, but yet the trial continues? o_O

  • So the prosecutor is...the Doctor? But Twelve? A dark Twelve? They sorta lost me.

  • And you'd think that with the revelation of the Time Lord High Council corruption (yes, Time Lords continue to be dicks), the trial would be over right? Nooooooo.

  • BWAH!! So Peri's alive and ended up marrying the warlord? Oh, the stupid, stupid children that will come from that.

  • You know, there's something to be said about the fact that both the prosecutor and the accused are the Doctor, and they both ditch the trial. :D

  • So it sounds like the Time Lords were in control of everyone's regenerations. Kinda makes sense now with that one thing that was said about the Doctor (by RTD? on the BBC site? can't remember) - that with Gallifrey gone, the Doctor no longer has a limit on his lives. He can go on forever.

  • I guess evil!Doctor is still running around somewhere then, eh? But the Master's plan was actually pretty slick for once - taking over the Matrix to take control of Gallifrey. But still, there were way too many variables to give it much chance of working.

  • ETA: Hold on. Did anyone ever put Earth back in the right place?? Everyone just sort of trots off at the end!

  • ETA2: And another wait-a-damn-minute moment. The Doctor and Mel take off *together* at the end of the trial. But if she's from the Doctor's future, wouldn't this all screw up him meeting her in the first place? Don't make me get all paradoxical reaper on your ass!

[identity profile] greenpear.livejournal.com 2007-03-19 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
You are probably the best person I know to understand what fun I'm having. Cause you're doing the same thing I'm doing. I love Classic Doctor Who.

And I'm looking forward to being just as bewildered as you when I get to the later Doctors...

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2007-03-19 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
It *is* quite a bit of fun and later incarnations definitely get zanier. Heh heh.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-03-19 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
Don't ask about Mel. It makes my brain hurt.

And Ravalox is left where it is, I think.

This is not something to ask about the cracktasticness of ToaTL.

I mean, seriously. Popplewick. You'd think Paul Cornell wrote these episodes.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2007-03-19 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
Don't ask about Mel. It makes my brain hurt.

At least the screaming was kept to a minimum in these. My first Mel experience was Time and the Rani.

And Ravalox is left where it is, I think.

But...but...it's EARTH.

This is not something to ask about the cracktasticness of ToaTL.

I mean, seriously. Popplewick. You'd think Paul Cornell wrote these episodes.


BWAHAHAHAHA! Oh man. It does not bode well that they're making a Paul Cornell book into TV canon, does it?

[identity profile] pixiesio.livejournal.com 2007-03-19 03:11 pm (UTC)(link)
So it sounds like the Time Lords were in control of everyone's regenerations. Kinda makes sense now with that one thing that was said about the Doctor (by RTD? on the BBC site? can't remember) - that with Gallifrey gone, the Doctor no longer has a limit on his lives. He can go on forever.

Really? Wow, I keep missing these memos....

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2007-03-19 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I really can't remember where I saw it though, so who knows how much basis it will have in canon. I *think* it was on the BBC site somewhere, but I really don't remember now.

But it could make sense if they want the Doctor to go on past three more actors. It was clear from these episodes that the Time Lords were the ones controlling people's regenerations - they could take them away or add to them as well.
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[identity profile] wiliqueen.livejournal.com 2007-03-19 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I swear you could tack on "and fuck you too!" to just about everything Six says. :D

Ha! This thought might actually be enough to get me to watch ToaTL again someday. Or not. Since I've actually always thought Six was fun, but have still assiduously avoided rewatching that season, like, EVER. Apart from fannish discussion, all I have are fuzzy memories of watching on the Lansing PBS station in [livejournal.com profile] brainiacfive's dorm room circa 1989.

Reference to the Doctor no longer being the President of Gallifrey.

Excellent! (And of course I wouldn't remember it, if this is where it was...)

Ah, so the Doctor was a "walking genocide" even before the Time War. No, really. He was. No wonder he hates talking about his past - his closet has probably the most skeletons in the universe.

Word.

So the prosecutor is...the Doctor? But Twelve? A dark Twelve? They sorta lost me.

A potential 12.5, supposedly. Don't ask me how. I've never managed a handwave for that one, and never seen anyone else come up with one. The Wikipedia entry calls him a "distillation of the Doctor's darker nature" and compares him to the Watcher in "Logopolis," but nothing even pretending to be concrete. *shrug*

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2007-03-19 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha! This thought might actually be enough to get me to watch ToaTL again someday. Or not. Since I've actually always thought Six was fun, but have still assiduously avoided rewatching that season, like, EVER. Apart from fannish discussion, all I have are fuzzy memories of watching on the Lansing PBS station in brainiacfive's dorm room circa 1989.

Mwah. Don't know if I'd ever be inclined to rewatch it myself.

The Wikipedia entry calls him a "distillation of the Doctor's darker nature" and compares him to the Watcher in "Logopolis," but nothing even pretending to be concrete.

The Watcher made my brain go boom.