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mrv3000 ([personal profile] mrv3000) wrote2007-06-25 02:16 pm
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Posty McPost

Looking at my last speculation post, I think I can safely say I've ventured off into "that's crazy talk!" territory. :D

I shouldn't be surprised, considering I did the same last year. Although, I'm not stressing about a main character maybe dying this year, so the speculation's a bit more enjoyable this time around. However, it's still just as maddening. Mwah.

It was almost a bit lovely how the Doctor wanted to take the fight off Earth. That they could go kill each other, just somewhere else. It's just something that's always been this trait of the Doctor's, even in the classic series. He's like the Earth's #1 fanboy. And probably even moreso since he made Gallifrey go boom. He adopted Earth long ago, and just has hung out on it so much in New Who.

Also, I wonder if at the Academy they made everyone choose these new names. I mean, they ripped the Gallifreyan kiddies away from their families at age 8, maybe the "names" are another form of separation. I think there were some Time Lords with name-sounding names, but maybe they were chosen as well? Could explain why the Doctor's all "900 years, I'm coping" when asked if he cares that he doesn't have a name - he was made to abandon it at 8. Also, it would *totally* fit when Reinette said that his name was more than a secret, and called him a "lonely little boy."

Also also, Gallifrey = Atlantis.

[identity profile] chiroho.livejournal.com 2007-06-25 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, these weren't normal 8-year-olds.

True. But it seemed like it was something that all the smart kids did, so obviously it wasn't uncommon either for Gallifreyan children. Hopefully we'll get a bit more back story next week.

Although, those Time Lord robes looked *way* better here than they ever did in the classic series.

Mostly because they were blurry, in the distance, and in the dark!!! ;)

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2007-06-25 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
True. But it seemed like it was something that all the smart kids did, so obviously it wasn't uncommon either for Gallifreyan children. Hopefully we'll get a bit more back story next week.

Side note - I'm kinda now wondering if *all* Gallifreyan kids automatically got sent to the Academy. It sorta sounded like it. And just kept going to school until they passed. (Aww, poor Doctor failing three times. *snickers*) But I know there seems to be this notion that there are Gallifreyans, and then there are Time Lords. But thinking on it, I can't say that I've ever seen a non-Time Lord Gallifreyan. Well, other than the people who lived outside the snow-globe bubble.

Mostly because they were blurry, in the distance, and in the dark!!! ;)

Mwah. Yes. Nothing like the fear that is this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Prydonian.jpg

[identity profile] chiroho.livejournal.com 2007-06-25 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm kinda now wondering if *all* Gallifreyan kids automatically got sent to the Academy.

It does seem like a possibility.

I can't say that I've ever seen a non-Time Lord Gallifreyan. Well, other than the people who lived outside the snow-globe bubble.

Right, the ones Leela ran into in "The Invasion of Time". But even then they seemed more like exiled Time Lords than regular Gallifreyans.

In fact, most of Gallifrey outside the Citadel seemed pretty well uninhabitable. So where would the other Gallifreyans be?

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2007-06-25 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Right, the ones Leela ran into in "The Invasion of Time". But even then they seemed more like exiled Time Lords than regular Gallifreyans.

Oh...that's right - they could have been Time Lords as well. Or wasn't there something about them wanting to get back to nature and so they split, rather than being exiled? (Or am I thinking of the hunting party from Castrovalva?) I mean, Leela ran out with some exiled-type Time Lords but were the others in exile?

In fact, most of Gallifrey outside the Citadel seemed pretty well uninhabitable. So where would the other Gallifreyans be?

Yeah, that band of people outside the city was pretty small. Unless there were more cities than just the Citadel?

[identity profile] chiroho.livejournal.com 2007-06-26 12:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Or wasn't there something about them wanting to get back to nature and so they split, rather than being exiled?

In the Episode Guide on Outpost Gallifrey, they're described as "outlaw Time Lords", so I guess that tends to suggest that all Gallifreyans are Time Lords - at least all Gallifreyans still alive at the time of the Citadel anyway.

Unless there were more cities than just the Citadel?

Something that has no doubt been discussed at great length in fandom. There is no cannon story on this at all, with the impression being that it's just the Citadel that is populated and everywhere outside Gallifrey is wilderness.

At least so far as I recall anyway.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2007-06-26 01:36 pm (UTC)(link)
In the Episode Guide on Outpost Gallifrey, they're described as "outlaw Time Lords", so I guess that tends to suggest that all Gallifreyans are Time Lords - at least all Gallifreyans still alive at the time of the Citadel anyway.

Ah. And I listened to that scene again where the Doctor's describing Gallifrey, and it really does sound like *all* Gallifreyans become Time Lords.

Something that has no doubt been discussed at great length in fandom. There is no cannon story on this at all, with the impression being that it's just the Citadel that is populated and everywhere outside Gallifrey is wilderness.

Except for the Tomb of Rassilon. Or Fortress. Castle? What was that thing? I went searching around last night after watching the phone conversation for reference to "the Cruciform" - the Master said he fled after the Daleks took that over - but apparently that's something new. Eh, maybe that's a name for the Tomb of Rassilon. Odd to think that Gallifrey would have anything cross-shaped.

[identity profile] beck-liz.livejournal.com 2007-06-26 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Mwah. Yes. Nothing like the fear that is this:

*shudders* Oh, geez. I got the chills imagining DT in that getup. Not the good chills, mind. He'd look seriously freaky in that. Fortunately, that should never come up. I hope.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2007-06-26 01:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Someone was saying that you can see a robe in the wardrobe in TCI? I just watched that scene again and didn't see it, but my eyes might not be as sharp. But anyway, you never know what could happen if the Doctor decides to go drinking... ;)