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mrv3000 ([personal profile] mrv3000) wrote2009-02-14 08:53 am
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Okay, this episode was one big info dump. For my own sake I had to break it down. I think this is right.




  1. The 13th tribe broke away and went to Earth. On Earth they created their own Cylons and went through the whole war thing, destroying each other.

  2. However, 5 humanoid Cylons ("the final five") managed to get away from Earth and headed back to the 12 colonies.

    • The final five were more advanced in that the Cylons on Earth could reproduce. They also had regeneration technology.

    • The final five were less advanced in that they didn't have jump drives and it took them forever to get back to the 12 colonies.


  3. When the 5 returned, they found the centurions going through the same conflict with the Humans that had happened on Earth.

  4. To get the centurions to stop fighting, the 5 promised them regeneration technology and also created human models (Cavil, Leoben, D'Anna, Six, Boomer). This is why the Cylons suddenly disappeared after the original war.

  5. The 5 hoped that if they gave these Cylons free will, the ability to love and have human emotions, that the cycle of destruction by the Cylons would end.

  6. Cavil went a bit nuts, not particularly liking the fact that he was made of meat, and killed the 5.

  7. When the 5 resurrected, Cavil blocked their memories and then shipped them off to live with the Humans.

  8. But now that their resurrection ship has been destroyed, Cavil's desperate to get that technology back. Ellen is saying she needs the other of the 5 to do something like that - no idea if it's a lie or the truth.


Oh, and there's some Cylon named Daniel we've never seen. (At least, I don't think we've ever seen a Daniel.)

Also, Mr. PC was the brain surgeon. HA!!

And one more thing, I love Ellen like this! At first I was like, "um, Ellen is the final Cylon?" But seeing her now, it completely fits.
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Re: Finally Up To Date on BSG

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2009-02-16 06:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Your listing of the seven Cylon models amused me. I tend to go "Six, Sharon, Leoben, D'Anna, That Old Asshole Guy Who Pretended To Be A Priest, *think* The Black Guy, and *think very hard* That Other Guy."

I...had to use Wiki for the names. :D

I'm not sure if you've got the information completely right, but I'm still a bit confused about the 13th Tribe and whether they were Cylons or what.

I don't think they were. It sounded to me like the 13th Tribe had created more Cylons, and that's why Earth was in ruins - they got into another Human vs. Cylon war.

I'm really confused as to how Ellen named/made "John" after her father when she's a Cylon.

Well Ellen said that Cylons on Earth had the ability to reproduce. So she could have had a father.

I know the Final Five are different, but it's weird. I'm leaning more toward the "Humans and Cylons are really the same" thing as an ending. Or maybe they once lived in harmony? I don't know.

I'm really curious what they've come up with. Only about 5 more episodes left.

Also, I'm totally going with the "Daniel is Starbuck's daddy" theory. I don't think they'd make up a whole 'nother Cylon just to show off what a dick John/Cavil is. We already knew that.

*nods*

Re: Finally Up To Date on BSG

[identity profile] jabberwockypie.livejournal.com 2009-02-17 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
BSG is confusing! Oh well. At least I can tell the Boomers apart. (The Sixes I'm less confident about. Forget about the Cavils, but they're all assholes anyway so it's okay to think of them as all the same.)

I'm really curious what they've come up with. Only about 5 more episodes left.
If it ends up with Rocks Fall Everybody Dies, I will be sad. Of course that was sort of the premise of the series. "Nukes Fall, Almost Everybody Dies".

You know, I've thought about graphing my feelings toward all of the characters on BSG over time, but some of those would zig and zag more than . . . a really zig-zaggy thing.

Re: Finally Up To Date on BSG

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2009-02-17 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
BSG is confusing! Oh well. At least I can tell the Boomers apart. (The Sixes I'm less confident about. Forget about the Cavils, but they're all assholes anyway so it's okay to think of them as all the same.)

I've pretty much given up on all of them. :D

If it ends up with Rocks Fall Everybody Dies, I will be sad. Of course that was sort of the premise of the series. "Nukes Fall, Almost Everybody Dies".

It probably wouldn't surprise me if it is.
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