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mrv3000 ([personal profile] mrv3000) wrote2010-07-31 08:08 pm
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So. The Deathly Hallows...

  • I really enjoyed this book! For me it didn't disappoint for being the finale for the entire thing.

  • Camping! :D Actually, after all the dire warnings I got, the whole camping section didn't seem that bad to me. It probably wouldn't have even registered with me other than being just another setting for the story.

  • YOU KILLED HEDWIG, YOU BASTARDS. Yes, yes, loads of people died too, but HEDWIG, DAMMIT.

  • LIKE A SISTER. XD XD XD (Sorry, but I laughed out loud at that part, not out of vindication, but at fandom amusement.)

  • I did have some "buwuh?" moments (like a secret entrance through a painting), but ultimately decided it was JKR pulling stuff out her ass fantasy and I should just roll with it.

  • I did sniffle a bit when the 4 ghosts turned up.

  • So that whining creature in Harry's death dream...that was the chunk of Voldemort, right? They never specifically said.

  • HEH. Even in death Dumbledore provides exposition!

  • I always knew Mrs. Weasley had it in her. XD

  • Harry named one of his kids after Snape? Really? Really? I know what Snape did for Harry, but he also helped to make 6 years of Harry's life a living hell. And it's not like they've already run out of dead friends/relatives to name the kids after. (Close, but not quite.)

  • Did JKR say more about what happened to everyone in the future? I've seen people talking about "so and so did this" or "these two people hooked up" but I have no clue if this is just fanon or what, since it wasn't in the book.

  • Edit: Oh, I guess this all should have taken place in the 90s since Harry was born in 1980?

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/ 2010-08-01 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
JKR did lots of interviews post-DH where she answered people's questions about what people did later on, etc. Some of these ended up being inconsistent, and fandom threw a pretty big hissyfit over how INTERVIEWS ARE NOT CANON!!!! and THE AUTHOR IS DEAD!!! and all that stuff. Off the top of my head I know Harry was an Auror, I'm pretty sure Hermione is some kind of magical lawyer (she is Frances) and Ron is either an Auror or helps George run the joke shop or ran the joke shop and then became an Auror or something. That was one of the inconsistent ones.

Albus Severus was the worst child name for a long time. But then Breaking Dawn came out.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-01 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
XD I'm pretty sure I heard the Auror thing about Harry and Ron and the magical Frances lawyer for Hermione. I could see that.

And I'm pretty sure Albus Severus and Renesmee are destined to fall in love. Jacob will then be re-bound to their daughter.

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[identity profile] noblealice.livejournal.com 2010-08-01 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
I think my favourite bit of interview-canon is where the trio all get Chocolate Frogs made of them and Ron says it's the best day of his life (lol, not the birth of your children, Ron?)

Albus Severus was the worst child name for a long time. But then Breaking Dawn came out.
Too true.

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[identity profile] shinyopals.livejournal.com 2010-08-01 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
ALSO, DUMBLEDORE IS GAY.

THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

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[identity profile] fauxkaren.livejournal.com 2010-08-01 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
Albus Severus was an awesome name because then you could ship him with Draco's kid and the ship was AS/S.

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[identity profile] goldy-dollar.livejournal.com 2010-08-01 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
Off the top of my head I know Harry was an Auror, I'm pretty sure Hermione is some kind of magical lawyer (she is Frances) and Ron is either an Auror or helps George run the joke shop or ran the joke shop and then became an Auror or something.

Man, in all my flouncing glory, I totally missed all that. YEAH HERMIONE, YOU BAMF.

[identity profile] jessicaqueen.livejournal.com 2010-08-01 09:55 am (UTC)(link)
Albus Severus was the worst child name for a long time. But then Breaking Dawn came out.

Am dead from laughing. So true.

[identity profile] janetmaca.livejournal.com 2010-08-01 01:03 pm (UTC)(link)
"she is Frances"
*snorts* How true!

[identity profile] typbrunette.livejournal.com 2010-08-01 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, you've finished it already? Weren't you JUST reading HBP? Impressive!

JKR did give a lot of information about what happened to people after the books, who married who and got what job and such (possibly the biggest revelation made after the books was that Dumbledore was gay. Apparently she never bothered telling anyone till the making of one of the movies in which Dumbledore told Harry a story about an old girlfriend and she told the writer Dumbledore was gay so he'd have to cut that bit out. I think she also said he probably was in love with Grindelwald (sp?) when he was younger.) It's all floating around out there on the interwebs, I'm sure someone's put together a page with it all in one place. There's been talk of her writing a kind of encyclopedia with all the information she'd thought up about the HP world but couldn't fit into the books, but I don't know if that's still happening or not.

Also, when I read the ending I totally sat there going, "Really, JKR?!?! Really?!?!" 'cause it was just so very fluffy and fanwanky, I had to take a minute and be like "No, seriously, did someone from the internet write this?" Not that I didn't like it, I was just happy Harry, Ron, and Hermione survived and the couples I liked were intact (though seriously, do all wizards meet their future spouses at age 11?). And Albus Severus is the most torturous name you could ever possibly give anyone in the history of ever. Maybe could've been worse if they'd snuck "Hitler" in there somewhere, but it seems out of character.

[identity profile] typbrunette.livejournal.com 2010-08-01 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, when I started writing that you had 0 comments, when I posted you had 12. Now I just look all dumb and repetitive. And dumb and repetitive!

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-01 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
The books are fairly quick reads, even though they're pretty thick. I wasn't reading at 2 a.m. or anything. :D

And...I kind of picked up a vibe between Dumbledore and Grindelwald (or however you spell). Doesn't surprise me she came out with that bit of info.

And the ending was... *snickers* I'm not sure what possessed her to write it other than maybe she felt like she needed to put a bow on it all - to show that decades later things really were happy and everyone was having a normal life now.

Poor Albus Severus. That's a toilet swirly name.

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[identity profile] fauxkaren.livejournal.com 2010-08-01 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
Camping! :D Actually, after all the dire warnings I got, the whole camping section didn't seem that bad to me. It probably wouldn't have even registered with me other than being just another setting for the story.

Exactly! The camping scenes get so much hate, but they're really not as omnipresent as people seem to think.

I did have some "buwuh?" moments (like a secret entrance through a painting), but ultimately decided it was JKR pulling stuff out her ass fantasy and I should just roll with it.

Well there are secret passages all over Hogwarts behind paintings and tapestries and in statues. AND it was the Room of Requirement, so if you needed a secret passage to Hogsmede, it'd be there.

So that whining creature in Harry's death dream...that was the chunk of Voldemort, right? They never specifically said.

Yeah. It's supposed to be the part of Voldemort that was in Harry.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-01 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly! The camping scenes get so much hate, but they're really not as omnipresent as people seem to think.

Seems like they only spanned over a few chapters, so I was kind of surprised with a "that was it?" :D

Well there are secret passages all over Hogwarts behind paintings and tapestries and in statues. AND it was the Room of Requirement, so if you needed a secret passage to Hogsmede, it'd be there.

True, true.

Yeah. It's supposed to be the part of Voldemort that was in Harry.

That's what I figured, but I wasn't 100%.

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Lol, I remember thinking "yay, finally a book that won't have two chapters of Dumbledore explaining stuff". TY, JKR, FOR KEEPING THE PATTERN.

LIKE A SISTER. XD XD XD (Sorry, but I laughed out loud at that part, not out of vindication, but at fandom amusement.)

YOU DIDN'T MAKE THE TEXT BIG ENOUGH AND SPARKLY ENOUGH FOR FRANCES TO NOTICE.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-01 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
Lol, I remember thinking "yay, finally a book that won't have two chapters of Dumbledore explaining stuff". TY, JKR, FOR KEEPING THE PATTERN.

SUCKER.

YOU DIDN'T MAKE THE TEXT BIG ENOUGH AND SPARKLY ENOUGH FOR FRANCES TO NOTICE.

Poor, poor Frances. :D

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I think JK also said that Ginny played professional Quidditch and also wrote sport articles for the Daily Prophet.....but that might have been fanon.

I heard that the only reason Tonks and Lupin died was because she was originally going to kill Arthur in book 5 but she couldn't do it. She decided that she had to kill somebody's parent and Tonks+Lupin=Arthur.

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/ 2010-08-01 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
Omg I forgot about professional Quidditch player Ginny! OMG WHAT A MARY SUE =|

The Arthur/Tonks/Lupin thing is true as well I believe. Arthur was going to be in the forest I think? So she had to replace him. ALL FATHER FIGURES MUST GO. I think Remus, being part of that BFF circle, fits into that scene better, but it also sort of makes me laugh because he's only been dead for like half an hour at that point.

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[identity profile] starlightmoonla.livejournal.com 2010-08-01 06:31 am (UTC)(link)
O_O

You finished the series already?!? That's so cool!

YOU KILLED HEDWIG, YOU BASTARDS. Yes, yes, loads of people died too, but HEDWIG, DAMMIT.

I KNOW!! And it was right at the start of the story. I remember my sister and I were reading the book at the same time and at some point I heard a gasp coming from her. It was in regards to Hedwig. *sniffles*

LIKE A SISTER. XD XD XD (Sorry, but I laughed out loud at that part, not out of vindication, but at fandom amusement.)

*twitches* I'm still not over that and being called delusional. Seriously, that just wasn't the nicest thing, especially with the Ron/Hermione group laughed about it.

Glad that you got through the series and that you enjoyed the ending! :D

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-01 01:59 pm (UTC)(link)
You finished the series already?!? That's so cool!

Yup! :D

I KNOW!! And it was right at the start of the story. I remember my sister and I were reading the book at the same time and at some point I heard a gasp coming from her. It was in regards to Hedwig. *sniffles*

I think I was more put out about Hedwig than Fred. :D

*twitches* I'm still not over that and being called delusional. Seriously, that just wasn't the nicest thing, especially with the Ron/Hermione group laughed about it.

*PET PET PET*

[identity profile] selenityshiroi.livejournal.com 2010-08-01 08:06 am (UTC)(link)
I can't believe she had to use the LIKE A SISTER line.

If you HAVE to use a line like that to prove your characters aren't romantically interested in each other then the readers who thought otherwise probably had a point.

(I never really cared about any of the ships except for the fact that Ron/Hermione squicked me out-only because Hermione was freakishly like me and Ron is the sort of person I can't actually stand...ironically, the only romantic relationship I thought was resolved relatively well was Ron/Hermione)

I actually rather liked Deathly Hallows. After being so frustrated with the previous two books I was just reading it to get it over with. But this book saved the series for me. I don't think I'll ever try to read Harry Potter again, but I don't regret reading it ever.

But nothing will save that epilogue for me. NOTHING. It was the most childish thing she ever wrote.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-01 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
The whole "like a sister" thing... JKR has never been subtle, has she? XD

I was impressed with the Deathly Hallows. For me it really delivered as far as wrapping the entire series up. It was like the opposite of the very dull HBP! :D

And the epilogue - *snickers*
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[identity profile] grav-ity.livejournal.com 2010-08-01 12:16 pm (UTC)(link)
*laughs*

I also liked the camping. And am one of approximately six people on the planet who liked the "Seventeen years later", because I am exactly that kind of dork, and I because I am capable of believing that Ginny is totally a world famous Quidditch player.

I was so upset that Hedwig died that I sort of always forget that Moody died at the same time! I spend the rest of the book wondering where he is, and then being all "Oh...right."

Oh, Mrs. Weasley! I wanted so badly to like her in this, but book five pretty much killed any affection I ever had for her.

Can you imagine going through life as Albus Severus Potter when your brother is called James? I think it's DESPERATELY unfair. They could at least have split it up a bit. He'll probably make friends with Scorpius Malfoy on the basis of crappy names alone!

I actually find the twins more heartbreaking on the reread, because of little things like Fred always being the person who talks first.

Mostly I just like it. ;)

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-01 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I also liked the camping. And am one of approximately six people on the planet who liked the "Seventeen years later", because I am exactly that kind of dork, and I because I am capable of believing that Ginny is totally a world famous Quidditch player.

It was dorkily cute. :D I wish that she could have written a bit more though. It was pretty surface-y stuff.

I was so upset that Hedwig died that I sort of always forget that Moody died at the same time! I spend the rest of the book wondering where he is, and then being all "Oh...right."

Oh right! I kind of forgot about that too! :D

Oh, Mrs. Weasley! I wanted so badly to like her in this, but book five pretty much killed any affection I ever had for her.

*doesn't specifically remember her in book 5*

Can you imagine going through life as Albus Severus Potter when your brother is called James? I think it's DESPERATELY unfair. They could at least have split it up a bit. He'll probably make friends with Scorpius Malfoy on the basis of crappy names alone!

No kidding! I suppose they can nickname him Al, but still. CRUEL.

I actually find the twins more heartbreaking on the reread, because of little things like Fred always being the person who talks first.

That is sad. :(

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[identity profile] leighleighla.livejournal.com 2010-08-01 01:58 pm (UTC)(link)
The only things about Deathly Hallows that really stands out for me (I never reread it after it came out) was being ridiculously happy when Ron and Hermione finally kissed, and that terrible bad fanfic epilogue.

My ship had a happy ending for once in my life, which was nice. For me, Ron and Hermione always reminded me of Han Solo and Princess Leia (*bicker bicker bicker SNOG*), and Ginny was totally the Mara Jade to Harry's Luke Skywalker...

...


wow is my nerd showing.

Anyways, how about that epilogue? Ugh. Feh. Drove me crazy how unsatisfying it was.
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[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-01 02:08 pm (UTC)(link)
:D :D Pretty accurate comparisons, I'd say!

And the epilogue was fairly silly. I didn't really mind it though, although if she felt the need to do that, I really wish she would have expanded on it a bit.

[identity profile] deltachild.livejournal.com 2010-08-01 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
You're making me want to read all of the books again, despite the fact that I sent them all home when I moved 0_o Glad you enjoyed. Have you taken the plunge into "Twilight" yet? ;)

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-01 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I imagine I'll read them all again one day - they were entertaining! But it'll probably be a few years.

And I've really no desire to read Twilight. :D

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YOU KILLED HEDWIG, YOU BASTARDS. Yes, yes, loads of people died too, but HEDWIG, DAMMIT.

That was totally the worst part. That's where I started crying. And then I didn't stop. I was on a very long plane flight to my first North American Science Fiction Convention too. I can't believe they killed her. Bastards is right.

I always knew Mrs. Weasley had it in her. XD

Dude, she kicked ass. She reminded me of my mom. You do not mess with Mrs. Weasley and you do not mess with my mom. Love that woman.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-01 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
*SNIFFS* Poor Headwig.

XD Your mom sounds awesome.
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[personal profile] nandamai 2010-08-01 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm kind of amazed I kept reading after Hedwig. I read them all at breakneck speed like you, though, and I just wanted to be DONE. Still, sniff.

Number One Niece (age 11) is waaaaaay too cool for HP now (picture pre-teen flouncing here), and thinks Twilight is fantabulously awesome literature. I keep reminding myself it can't be much worse than VC Andrews.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-01 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Headwig was just MEAN.

And I wonder which would be worse... Probably still VC Andrews. XD
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[personal profile] woodface 2010-08-01 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Hedwig and Tonks and Remus. Those were the deaths that had me going all RARRRRRGH!

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-01 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd been spoiled for Tonks and Remus, so they didn't bug me as much. Although I did think it was rather cruel of JKR to take away both parents of their baby. She seems to have a thing with orphans.

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I really enjoyed it, too, although I do have issues with the epilogue. Don't hate it as much as some do, though.

YOU KILLED HEDWIG, YOU BASTARDS.

This. I mean, I was a major Harry Potter fan back in the day, so I was basically crying throughout the whole freaking book, but Hedwig? HEDWIG??? That's just mean.

HEH. Even in death Dumbledore provides exposition!

*snerk* Can't have a Harry Potter book without it! It's just not right!

Edit: Oh, I guess this all should have taken place in the 90s since Harry was born in 1980?

Yup. I think year one is meant to take place during '91-'92 school year, so the last book would end in '98, not counting the epilogue. So basically, they're contemporary with the Buffy gang.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-01 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
This. I mean, I was a major Harry Potter fan back in the day, so I was basically crying throughout the whole freaking book, but Hedwig? HEDWIG??? That's just mean.

YES.

*snerk* Can't have a Harry Potter book without it! It's just not right!

Apparently! XD

Yup. I think year one is meant to take place during '91-'92 school year, so the last book would end in '98, not counting the epilogue. So basically, they're contemporary with the Buffy gang.

That surprised me. I just assumed it started in the 2000s.

[identity profile] mornea.livejournal.com 2010-08-02 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
Snape! He was the hero here... he was no prize as Harry's teacher, but Harry was no prize thru the bookss. Snape was redeemed, vindicated, a hero... more of one than dumbledore. He had a prickly exterior but was working to protect Harry all along... from Voldemort and from the arrogance that James had displayed.
And in the end, Snape swallowed the last of his pride to give Harry the memories he needed. He's the most redeemed character in the books, and the most heroic. :: sniffle :: I love Snape.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2010-08-02 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
Snape really did turn out to be the surprise good guy of it all, although I'm not convinced he tried to separate Harry from James very much. He pretty much lumped them together, but did the right thing in spite of that.

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DEDWIG!!!

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AWWWWWWWWW!