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I'll admit I was snuffling through the last 5 minutes or so. They've done moments with historical figures before about how they'll be remembered in the future, but this was bumped up a few notches. I was surprised (in a good way) they actually took a famous person along in the TARDIS. And then there was snuffling.

I'm really glad that showing Vincent the future didn't change anything. Depression isn't something that goes away just by thinking good thoughts or anything. (So happy we live in the days of medication. Screw you, Tom Cruise.)

Eleven was surprisingly lovely about it all. This is by far the most sympathy, caring and kindness I've seen from him. And Amy and Vincent were cute together. Ultimate ginger! :D

The only thing that stuck out to me was when Amy went and hid when the monster was attacking. It seemed kind of odd. Pick up a stick and start swinging, girl! And it was closely followed up by the Doctor saying something about needing to keep Amy safe. Which...isn't unusual for him to want to keep his companions safe, but the way he said it struck me as a vibe of "Amy is 5 years old and must be kept safe." I guess it's the Amelia relationship coming out?

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I was iffy about the Vincent-on-the-TARDIS thing but I think it worked out nice. I liked that they didn't change... much.

I think this is the most emotion we see from Amy, tbh, or at least the most emotion we see from Amy about things not directly related to her (ie Rory dying twiceover), so it was nice.

Which...isn't unusual for him to want to keep his companions safe, but the way he said it struck me as a vibe of "Amy is 5 years old and must be kept safe." I guess it's the Amelia relationship coming out?

I don't remember this instance in particular, but I'd wager that it might also be because he'd just got a companion killed a couple weeks ago.

I was iffy about the Vincent-on-the-TARDIS thing but I think it worked out nice. I liked that they didn't change... much.

*nods*

I think this is the most emotion we see from Amy, tbh, or at least the most emotion we see from Amy about things not directly related to her (ie Rory dying twiceover), so it was nice.

It was! A lot of her emotional stuff has revolved around Rory -- which isn't a bad thing -- but it's nice to get another angle.

I don't remember this instance in particular, but I'd wager that it might also be because he'd just got a companion killed a couple weeks ago.

That could be. The problem with knowing spoilers about Rory is I'm sort of forgetting about him as a motivation. :D

I was sniffling when I first saw it. Then I watched it with a friend when I was drunk and I was sobbing inconsolably for about 15 minutes.

Awwwww! *sniffs*

While I like this episode, I feel like I didn't love it as much as most people and idk why that is. I do definitely think that it is one of the better episodes in series 5 though and I love how sad it is. Also, I love that scene where Amy is crying and she doesn't know why.

That was a nice little scene. I liked how Vincent noticed those things.

Which...isn't unusual for him to want to keep his companions safe

I think he's also in uber-protective mode right now.

I LOVE THIS EPISODE SO MUCH! I think it might be my Favourite Episode Involving an Historical Personage, but I'm not positive because I don't know how much Reinette counts. Mostly, I just thought it was very nearly perfect in terms of tone and storytelling (though I'll admit that the first time I saw it, two minutes after I watched Rory get sucked into the rift, I had a different reaction).

I mostly wondered about his ear. Isn't Van Gogh the one who lost an ear?

*stops talking so as to avoid spoilers*

I think he's also in uber-protective mode right now.

Probably.

I LOVE THIS EPISODE SO MUCH! I think it might be my Favourite Episode Involving an Historical Personage, but I'm not positive because I don't know how much Reinette counts. Mostly, I just thought it was very nearly perfect in terms of tone and storytelling (though I'll admit that the first time I saw it, two minutes after I watched Rory get sucked into the rift, I had a different reaction).

It is a bit jarring immediately after Rory, but on its own it really is a lovely little episode. :)

I mostly wondered about his ear. Isn't Van Gogh the one who lost an ear?

Oh right! Hmmm.

It is a bit jarring immediately after Rory, but on its own it really is a lovely little episode. :)

I think that's kind of the point, actually, now that I've seen it a few times. Because Amy's forgotten him, and so the writers chose to make US forget him too...except clearly we haven't, which just makes it all the more awkward. Because every time Vincent says something like "I love you!" or "Stay here and we'll have babies by the score!" you think "Awwww!" and then "NOOOO!" and then "I'M CONFUSED!" and it could have been a mess, but somehow it worked.

(Yes, I watched the episode twice the day before yesterday to prepare for your viewing of it...I was bored!)

I think that's kind of the point, actually, now that I've seen it a few times. Because Amy's forgotten him, and so the writers chose to make US forget him too...except clearly we haven't, which just makes it all the more awkward. Because every time Vincent says something like "I love you!" or "Stay here and we'll have babies by the score!" you think "Awwww!" and then "NOOOO!" and then "I'M CONFUSED!" and it could have been a mess, but somehow it worked.

And meanwhile Eleven was quietly (and subtly) angsting in the background.

(Yes, I watched the episode twice the day before yesterday to prepare for your viewing of it...I was bored!)

XD

And yet, we don't completely forget Rory because the doctor accidentally says "Rory" at one point. nice touch, that.

It was!

There were a lot of nits I could pick about this ep (for example how easily Vincent seemed to take the idea of time travel). I felt like a scene had been cut. But you know what? I DIDN'T CARE. I was bawling at the end. I loved this ep despite it's flaws.

And I think the doctor does still look on Amy as Amelia, the seven year old girl.

Yeah, it was one of those episodes where you didn't really care about the small quibbles too much. :)

Seeing Vincent in the museum had me snuffling too.

(So happy we live in the days of medication. Screw you, Tom Cruise.)

MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY. Heh, and don't get me started on Tom Cruise.

I also love Eleven's pile of good things speech. LOVE IT.

Hmmm, maybe he is feeling extra-protective of Amy because of what just happened to Rory? Or yeah, he's just seeing her as bb!Amelia again. :)

MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY. Heh, and don't get me started on Tom Cruise.

As someone who's happily on medication, *gives the finger to Tom baby*

I also love Eleven's pile of good things speech. LOVE IT.

Yes! I thought it was the perfect thing to say there.

Hmmm, maybe he is feeling extra-protective of Amy because of what just happened to Rory? Or yeah, he's just seeing her as bb!Amelia again. :)

Probably. I probably only noticed it because I was already frowning at Amy hiding.

As someone who's happily on medication, *gives the finger to Tom baby*

Agreed. :)

My favorite episode of Series 5. I bawl at the end, the husband sniffles -- a someone I know who really hadn't taken to Matt Smith saw this on the BBCA marathon New Year's and was "OMG!! THANK YOU FOR TELLING ME ABOUT THIS!!!"

I've been giving a lot of thought as to why this episode worked so beautifully for me and I realized it's very simple. Steve Moffat is a brilliant technical writer. He can plot a story arc so tightly that he can play the wibbly-wobbly stuff. Great for a single episode or a comedy series (Coupling is superb in it's comic timing and who can forget Jane's sock puppet turning on her), but with something like this, I begin to feel it has no heart. The plots are story-driven, not character driven.

Richard Curtis (whose stuff I also love) is very much character-driven and it shows here. Amy does get to shine here, I think, with her sadness that she doesn't understand, amplified at the end by the realization that they couldn't save Vincent from himself. And, oh, the sunflowers. Just...I love it.

I had to look up Richard Curtis. I'm not really familiar with a majority of his stuff, although apparently he did write for No. 1 Ladies Detective Agency, something with loads of heart. He really does it well.

I did really like having both the Doctor and Amy's different viewpoints on Vincent - someone who understood and someone who didn't. It was well done.

Yeah, this one had me sniffling through it, starting when Amy was crying and didn't know why. *pets Amy* Loved Eleven in this, loved him being extra-protective of Amy, for all the more reason because she doesn't remember what just happened, and him forgetting Rory wasn't there. I liked the absent-mindedness of that; it shows that Rory's been around a lot.

The guy who played Vincent was awesome, I thought. Probably my favorite episode this series. I also quite like the last one, but quality-wise I think this one is the best.

Yeah, this one had me sniffling through it, starting when Amy was crying and didn't know why. *pets Amy* Loved Eleven in this, loved him being extra-protective of Amy, for all the more reason because she doesn't remember what just happened, and him forgetting Rory wasn't there. I liked the absent-mindedness of that; it shows that Rory's been around a lot.

A lot of things in this episode were nice touches.

The guy who played Vincent was awesome, I thought. Probably my favorite episode this series. I also quite like the last one, but quality-wise I think this one is the best.

Plot-wise I think I might like Amy's Choice better, but this one wins as far as emotional content.

I love this episode so much. First of all, I'm a huge fan of Van Gogh's art. For me, the whole thing is like a love letter to him and I really appreciate that. Tony Curran was amazing as Vincent... and what an uncanny likeness! The Doctor was at his kindest. And last, Amy was also kind and compassionate here, which I have always hoped her to be.

I'm not really even a fan of his work and I still thought it was incredibly lovely and quite sensitive. :)

Edit: I should say that I don't hate Van Gogh's art, just that I'm not into Impressionism. I can appreciate his talent, though.

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