mrv3000: made by elismor (DW - No. 10)
mrv3000 ([personal profile] mrv3000) wrote2006-01-27 07:16 am
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I admit it. I'm a canon whore.

Okay, I'm to the point of realizing that any Doctor Who fic I write that has any sort of a plot will probably conflict with the older shows. Knowing my luck, someone will come back to me with, "Um, the third doctor already visited Lady Catherine of Pudingshire in 1567, and while he did sleep with her, you got the name of her servant wrong..."

Frankly, Outpost Gallifrey scares me. There's just. so. much. *passes out* (Color coded! With 13 different colors! OMG.) Do I pay attention to radio? Books? Is the Doctor half-human or not? And for the love of God, what about his shoe size?? *CRIES*

I need a Doctor Who for Dummies. With pictures.

(Or I need to actually watch the old stuff. But isn't that something like 5,000 episodes?)
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[identity profile] wiliqueen.livejournal.com 2006-01-27 04:10 pm (UTC)(link)
You are not alone. *g*

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[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2006-01-27 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh thank God. *clings to community*

[identity profile] elismor.livejournal.com 2006-01-27 04:17 pm (UTC)(link)

You can always make the decision to write from 9 and 10 only.

Heck. Dr. Who canon is malleable in its own right--it trips all over itself all the time.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2006-01-27 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I probably will just write 9 and 10. (Because of the obsession and all.) But I don't want to bother writing a trip to Mt. Vesuvius if that was episode 309, or get a major fact wrong like every 10 years a bunny pops out of the Doctor's ear or something.

[identity profile] elismor.livejournal.com 2006-01-27 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)

No. I meant that you can decide that canon only includes what you have seen in 9 and 10 and ignore all the other stuff.

You can.

Really.

It's allowed.

(dude. i would read it.)

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2006-01-27 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
But...wouldn't people mock me? And point at me? *whimpers*

[identity profile] chiroho.livejournal.com 2006-01-27 04:42 pm (UTC)(link)
There are a lot of episodes, but you really don't need to watch them all. Just because Doctor #2 decided to visit Sir Geoffrey of Clydesdale North (a distant ancestor of the PM apparently), doesn't mean that Doctor #9 can't as well. And chances are that you really aren't going to run into that many things.

Remember that the vast majority of Doctor #2's time on earth was in the 60s and 70s, and for Doctor #3 it was the 70s. For #4 it was the late 70s and early 80s. Etc. Each of the incarnations spent the majority of their "earth time" in the present day for when the TV show was made. So while there were occasional forays into human history, remember that the show was made on a very limited budget so these tended to be somewhat few and far between.

In fact, all the Doctors spent a lot more time travelling the universe seeing other races, planets, and species than Doctor #9 did. He stayed remarkably close to earth for nearly all his regeneration. There were whole seasons of earlier Doctors where they never came near earth.

So I'd just kind of wing it. Yes, pay attention to what alien monsters may be out there, or just make up your own. There are a heck of a lot of possibilities. Just don't try and use any of the historical "enemies" unless you really want to make sure you have the canon to write them correctly. For example, Daleks (now supposedly destroyed anyway), Cybermen, Sontarans, etc. Although come to think of it, there really aren't that many evil aliens that the Doctor ran up against more than a couple of times, the Daleks and the Cybermen being the two exceptions as I think just about every regeneration ran up against them at one point or another. Certainly #2-#7 had encounters with Cybermen, and everyone except #8 (as it was just a made for TV movie) with Daleks.

But I'd just write it. Chances are, you're probably fine. And if you want to use any older characters from the Doctor's history, just ask and I'll see what I can do to remember. :)

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2006-01-27 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh. That's interesting they didn't really do the Earth history thing much. Well, more for me, I guess. :D

Just don't try and use any of the historical "enemies" unless you really want to make sure you have the canon to write them correctly. For example, Daleks (now supposedly destroyed anyway), Cybermen, Sontarans, etc.

Yeah, I really don't think I'd try and tackle a major plotline like that. Too involved for my lazy brain.

And if you want to use any older characters from the Doctor's history, just ask and I'll see what I can do to remember. :)

Thanks! :)

[identity profile] chiroho.livejournal.com 2006-01-27 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)
That's interesting they didn't really do the Earth history thing much.

Well, they did in the beginning. The first two Doctors did a lot more in that area. For example, Doctor #1 had Marco Polo, The Aztecs, The Reign of Terror (French Revoluotion), The Romans, The Crusade, The Myth Makers (siege of Troy), The Massacre (Elizabethan France and England), The Gunfighters (Tombstone 1881).

However, Doctor #2 only had one historical episode, The Highlanders. I can't find any really historical episodes for Doctor #3. Doctor #4 has a semi-Egyptian thing, but it's really more Egyptology than Egypt. The Mask of Mandragora has Renaissance Italy, Talons of Weng Chiang is Victorian London, Horror of Fang Rock has an early 20th Century lighthouse in which the whole episode is set, The Stones of Blood references a circle of standing stones not unlike Stonehenge, but it's not really historical as it's set in "today".

Doctor #5 has The Visitation which is 17thC England and ends at the Great Fire of London, Black Orchid which is set in 1925, and The Kings Demons which is the time of King John

Doctor #6 has no real historical episodes, and Number #7 has only a few. Remembrance of the Daleks goes back to 1963. Battlefield which discusses Arthurian mythology, but doesn't go there. Ghost Light which is set entirely in a manor house in England during the hey days of the British Empire, and The Curse of Fenric which is set during WWII.

#8 has no historical episodes, while you know what #9 did.

So there! Go write fic! :)

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2006-01-27 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)
HA! Okay, tell me more about the Egyptology thing. One of my plot ideas involved something to do with that.

[identity profile] chiroho.livejournal.com 2006-01-27 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
The Pyramids of Mars.

Whole totally different spin on things than Stargate, that's for sure - although it still involves aliens.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2006-01-27 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
See, I need to know those kinds of things! I had been mulling something to do with Howard Carter, but obviously that won't work.

Thanks! :)

[identity profile] pixiesio.livejournal.com 2006-01-28 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Like others have said, the various Doctors have tripped over each other time and again, and through time and space <g>, so don't worry too much about canon as the show never seems to!

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2006-01-28 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
I'm starting to realize that. :D