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mrv3000 ([personal profile] mrv3000) wrote2012-09-17 09:28 am
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LOL

If you want a laugh, the comments on this article are hilarious. :D

Article on S7 of Doctor Who so far.

Warning: negativity about Doctor Who, so if that kind of thing bums you out, don't click!

Highlights in the comments: DW's gay agenda! Entertainment is flooded with minorities! Eleven is too feminine! But of course an actual female Doctor would be the ultimate insult! Bad scripts are the BBC's leftist agenda!


"Emma Noble also grew as a character..."

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/ 2012-09-17 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I like the comment that said something about how not ALL New Who stories are shit! There are some good ones! and then they listed all of Moffat's work, lol.

The article is totally right though. S7 has been dull as bricks unfortunately and they are absolutely using the recurring characters to draw in viewers without actually DOING anything with those characters. Womp. Maybe it'll get better when the Ponds finally leave? Maybe the companion will stop being set dressing? HOPE SPRINGS ETERNAL.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2012-09-17 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
People got too used to actual character development and stuff before hand. Now it seems like if character development happens, it's purely accidental.

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/ 2012-09-17 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, lately when people point to character development in Moffat Who I'm left thinking it's just inconsistent writing more than anything, not wrtten because someone said "we need to do x/y/z to make the characters change in these ways", but written because someone said "we need the plot to do x/y/z so the characters have to do these particular things to facilitate that".

Even when they try really hard for character development, like ATCM was trying with the Doctor, it comes off feeling bland and unearned to me. Am I supposed to see a connection between the Doctor killing Filch in DOAS and wanting to kill Jex in ATCM? Or is that just coincidence? If it's meant to be there, why not make reference to it in some way? Wouldn't it have been more powerful to have the Doctor yell about "victims of his mercy" if we'd SEEN victims of his mercy in a recent episode? If Amy thinks the Doctor travelling alone has been so bad for him, why does the episode end with her and Rory deciding to go home but no mention of "hey maybe you should find someone else to travel with"?

It's dumb. I can't help but think Moffat reacted to the criticism of s6 being obscenely "arc heavy" (in reality people just found it convoluted) by going the exact opposite direction and making every story feel totally disconnected.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2012-09-17 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
It bugs me when characters don't act like people who actually exist -- who not just react to whatever situation they're in, but interact with the world. It sounds very cardboard cutout, and I'm sort of glad I dropped out mid S6.

[identity profile] larissa-j.livejournal.com 2012-09-17 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
S7 has been dull as bricks

I was beginning to think it was me because as usual with Moffat, everyone is like "best show" and I'm waiting for characters I don't even like to return just to make the show interesting again.

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/ 2012-09-17 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I hated a lot of things about s6 but it definitely had me more excited than s7 has. A lot of it I think is that Amy and Rory just feel so painfully superfluous at this point -- they're not contributing anything to the stories and the stories aren't contributing anything to them as characters, there's literally no reason they're still on the show.

The only episode I've found particularly interesting was 7x01 and that was solely because of the unexpected appearance of Jenna-Louise Coleman -- I think if it had been any other actress in the role I'd not have cared, and the rest of the episode was a hot mess. DOAS and ATCM have just been dull, and ATCM in particular was frustrating because it felt like maybe there was a good story hidden somewhere in there that just couldn't surface.

[identity profile] papilio-luna.livejournal.com 2012-09-17 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Not just you. At least series 6 gave me a never-ending rage-boner. With series 7 I can't even bring myself to care enough to be angry.

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/ 2012-09-17 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
lol exactly

maybe I used the last of my fucks in s6, I don't know
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[personal profile] got_swagger 2012-09-17 05:36 pm (UTC)(link)
HOLY UNEDITED ARTICLE, BATMAN!

Ecclestone

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[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2012-09-17 05:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd only seen one person correcting it too!

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/ 2012-09-17 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
The best part is that Billie's autobiography calls him Ecclestone.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2012-09-17 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Poor Ecclestone.
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[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2012-09-17 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I know I certainly lose interest in a show if the characters aren't interesting or solid. Of course, some people call this being too "soapy" - feelings and stuff don't belong on Doctor Who! Well, you can have your characterization-less alien show. The plot were never what drew me to the show in the first place.
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[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2012-09-17 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
It really does seem like it's the "old boys" who complain the most. It's called Doctor Who and not The Companion Show! Their job is to stand there and scream!

Right.

[identity profile] anna-sg1.livejournal.com 2012-09-17 07:23 pm (UTC)(link)
LOLLL Emma Noble

I can only agree with everything everyone already said. Season 7 feels so disjointed and random. In the first two episodes the Doctor has no mercy (not for the crazy Daleks, not for Oswin or for Filch) then he yells about the victims of his mercy. WHAT VICTIMS? I mean, I get that he means ~overall~ (even mentions the Master and Amy acts like she knows perfectly well who that is, when did they talk about him) but like... give me SOME emotional build-up to this. I'll take anything at this point.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2012-09-17 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
It just doesn't sound that cohesive. I was thinking about watching the dinosaur episode, because I'm sort of interested in Rory's dad (yeah, anything to do with characters), but it sounds like it's as disjointed as the others.
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[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2012-09-17 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I've seen that with more people. Maybe S6 killed the caring.

[identity profile] rattus-aerius.livejournal.com 2012-09-17 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I miss Emma Noble. :c

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2012-09-18 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Emma was totally the best.

[identity profile] greenpear.livejournal.com 2012-09-17 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I must be one of the few that just watches the show without getting either super giddy about how great it is -OR- super pissed off about how bad it is.

I've been on this road for 40 years now and there have always been ups and downs. Each version will have their nay- & yeah-sayers. It really needs to be taken as a whole rather than picking it apart.

I've loved some of the Matt Smith episodes. I've also hated some of the Matt Smith episodes. But it all comes down to the fact I love the show in general and am quite ready to stay with it and see where it takes me next. That's the real surprise in the show. Never knowing what's up next. Don't like it now? Wait a year or three. It will turn into something completely different. That's it's nature...

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2012-09-18 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
You sound so healthy and sane - it's not possible in fandom! :D

[identity profile] greenpear.livejournal.com 2012-09-18 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, you've said this before. I've just never been able to understand the craziness which is fandom...