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mrv3000 ([personal profile] mrv3000) wrote2003-07-15 09:41 pm

Hiya

Spent all day with my friend who is sad but doing well. :) But dang it was hot here today. And humid. Yuck. Normally we don't get the humidity during the summer. Ick.

Looks like everybody's been their wacky selves the last 24 or so hours. You nuts. And I thought I was the insane one. ([livejournal.com profile] familyarchives - step away from ff.net!!) But I have one question after playing a little catch-up - being a S/J shipper, am I not allowed to actually *like* Daniel? {checks back of shipper card} :(

Ug. Lugging around a hot, sweaty baby and a hot, sweaty 2-year-old all day is exhausting. I'm calling it a day.

[identity profile] yamadara.livejournal.com 2003-07-15 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
But I have one question after playing a little catch-up - being a S/J shipper, am I not allowed to actually *like* Daniel? {checks back of shipper card}

Probably not. S/J or Daniel? Daniel or S/J? Cause it's not conceivable to like more then one thing on the show. ;)

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 07:10 am (UTC)(link)
Probably not. S/J or Daniel? Daniel or S/J? Cause it's not conceivable to like more then one thing on the show. ;)

Dammit!
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[personal profile] nandamai 2003-07-15 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
But I have one question after playing a little catch-up - being a S/J shipper, am I not allowed to actually *like* Daniel?

Nope! Absolutely not! And shame on you for even having to check!

;)

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 07:10 am (UTC)(link)
And shame on you for even having to check!

I am *so* very sorry. :(

[identity profile] diavestra.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 08:06 am (UTC)(link)
Does this mean she gets her card revoked???

(Just curious because I don't actually *have* a card...)

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 08:10 am (UTC)(link)
Apparently. Waaaaahhhh!! But what if I use my S/J icon? Still gets taken away? :(

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[identity profile] diavestra.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 08:44 am (UTC)(link)
Quick! Send it to me. I'll keep it safe for you. They can't actually take it away if you don't *have* it, can they???

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 08:48 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah! That's it! Take good care of it. *sniff* It likes to be propped up about 6 feet away from the TV on Stargate night. Snacks are okay, but no matter what it tells you, don't let it near the booze. It gets kinda surly.

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[identity profile] diavestra.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 09:13 am (UTC)(link)
Check. Snacks okay, no booze. I'll placate it with chocolate...

And I'm watching from the beginning so it will have lots to see, even when it's not Stargate night!

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 09:22 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sure it will be really happy. *sniff*

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[identity profile] diavestra.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 09:27 am (UTC)(link)
Awww.

::pat pat::

There, there. It's not so bad. I'm sure it' just temporary. And you can come and visit it.

It'll be back home again before you know it.

[identity profile] suzvoy.livejournal.com 2003-07-15 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
We had our hottest day for eight years yesterday. Ugh.

being a S/J shipper, am I not allowed to actually *like* Daniel? {checks back of shipper card} :(

The shipper people say yes, the Daniel people (the more umm, passionate ones) seem to think no. No idea how it all started...

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 07:12 am (UTC)(link)
We had our hottest day for eight years yesterday. Ugh.

Welcome to global warming, I suppose. :P

The shipper people say yes, the Daniel people (the more umm, passionate ones) seem to think no. No idea how it all started...

Well the funny thing was this current impression wasn't coming from the Daniel people this time around. ;)

[identity profile] suzvoy.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 10:44 am (UTC)(link)
Well that was a VERY general explanation ;)

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 11:02 am (UTC)(link)
Duly noted. *g*

[identity profile] lydkami.livejournal.com 2003-07-15 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
well from my pov you could.....but you should check with the Daniel's fans if that's ok :-p from the sj I don't think you will really have a problem...you can like whoever you want to be a sj(well apart from being into sj, duh!:-p)

good to know your friend is doing well :)

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 07:14 am (UTC)(link)
well from my pov you could.....but you should check with the Daniel's fans if that's ok :-p from the sj I don't think you will really have a problem...you can like whoever you want to be a sj(well apart from being into sj, duh!:-p)

So I'm cool as long as I stay S/J, right? :)

good to know your friend is doing well :)

Thanks you. :)

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[identity profile] lydkami.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 11:51 am (UTC)(link)
you are always cool my dear :)


you welcome.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 01:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Aww. :)

[identity profile] seldear.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
I have one question after playing a little catch-up - being a S/J shipper, am I not allowed to actually *like* Daniel? {checks back of shipper card} :(

Well, mostly, I think it depends if you're going to let other people define what you are and aren't allowed to like.

I reserve the right to loathe Denialites, MS, and Fanny, while still liking Daniel.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 07:15 am (UTC)(link)
Well, mostly, I think it depends if you're going to let other people define what you are and aren't allowed to like.

Well, I haven't before and I don't think I'll start now. ;)
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[personal profile] woodface 2003-07-16 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
I say you can like who you want. *shrugs* Must admit that the whole thing is starting to make me a bit partial towards Daniel. At the moment he's working on my nerves in S4. Mostly I like him though, esp the banter with Jack.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
I say you can like who you want. *shrugs* Must admit that the whole thing is starting to make me a bit partial towards Daniel.

You too? *g*

At the moment he's working on my nerves in S4. Mostly I like him though, esp the banter with Jack.

I just like Daniel. And why do I still feel like my shipper card is going to be revoked just for admitting that?
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[personal profile] woodface 2003-07-16 07:27 am (UTC)(link)
You too? *g*

It's sometimes hard not to, isn't it? Sure, I like Daniel but knowing that MS is back because some fans shouted loud enough and not because of his love for the show, that doesn't sit well with me. I'm saddened it will keep from getting Jonas grow to be a full member of SG-1. Although honestly, the Jonas centered episodes in S6 have been a tad boring to me. Whereas Daniel centered eps have me sometimes very much intrigued. With a couple of exceptions.

I just like Daniel. And why do I still feel like my shipper card is going to be revoked just for admitting that?

Because the continuing head ons between SDJers and SJers? The most annoying thing is that I don't experience those head ons myself, I only have hear-say and even then my info is vague. Of course there are the things that Suz has posted from that one message board that got me annoyed and convinced I should not venture further down that road. From what I gather from that there is a certain love for Daniel coming from his hard core fans that clashes with liking the other team mates. Daniel is great, Sam sucks and should leave. Perhaps it's the finality that they put in their choice of either you chose for Daniel completely or you are against him that makes your mind think that "liking" Daniel means that you are going against SJ. Which in my opinion is ridiculous as I don't see why liking Daniel should prevent you from following up your ship. I like Daniel, I sometimes think he is right about something, other times I think Jack is right etc. Am I still making sense?

I'd say, keep your shipper card and treasure it as much as you like.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 08:04 am (UTC)(link)
Sure, I like Daniel but knowing that MS is back because some fans shouted loud enough and not because of his love for the show, that doesn't sit well with me.

Well, that's one interpretation. And one I don't *completely* buy. I mean, I'm sure that TPTB aren't complete brainless nimrods without a will of their own. If they really didn't want him back for whatever reason, they would have told the campaign to go pound sand. (The internet community really is a legend in its own mind.) And as for MS coming back without a love for the show...can't answer to that one. Don't know if he loves it or not. But as an actor - it's a full-time gig.

I'm saddened it will keep from getting Jonas grow to be a full member of SG-1.

I would have loved to see that too. Think he had a lot of potential. And oddly enough, could see him begin to parrot a lot of Jack's behaviour.

Although honestly, the Jonas centered episodes in S6 have been a tad boring to me.

Jonas didn't really start clicking with me until Metamorphosis.

Whereas Daniel centered eps have me sometimes very much intrigued. With a couple of exceptions.

There are always exceptions. ;) It'll be interesting to see if they can make this upcoming one fresh and unique. Well, we'll see.

Because the continuing head ons between SDJers and SJers? The most annoying thing is that I don't experience those head ons myself, I only have hear-say and even then my info is vague.

You'd have thought they would have stopped after Daniel came back. Don't get involved myself. I mean, why? Is what person A thinks going to change the way I watch the show? Not likely.

Of course there are the things that Suz has posted from that one message board that got me annoyed and convinced I should not venture further down that road.

For a TV show, it's just not worth getting that annoyed. No one will ever convince me otherwise. I save my annoyance energy for other things.

From what I gather from that there is a certain love for Daniel coming from his hard core fans that clashes with liking the other team mates. Daniel is great, Sam sucks and should leave.

And the same is true of S/J people. There are some very hard core S/J fans that think Jack and Sam are great and Daniel sucks and should leave. Maybe we should just shove all those people into a room, lock the door...yeah that's it. Thought there was going to be more. ;)

Which in my opinion is ridiculous as I don't see why liking Daniel should prevent you from following up your ship.

Yep. And, I know this may be hard to believe, but there may be some Danielites that actually like Sam. *gasp*

I like Daniel, I sometimes think he is right about something, other times I think Jack is right etc. Am I still making sense?

Sure. :) And I think they're both well-rounded characters for not always being right. I mean, who wants to watch someone perfect?

I'd say, keep your shipper card and treasure it as much as you like.

Why thanks! :)
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[personal profile] woodface 2003-07-16 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
Well, that's one interpretation. And one I don't *completely* buy. I mean, I'm sure that TPTB aren't complete brainless nimrods without a will of their own.

You're probably right on that one! Well I really hope you are!

And as for MS coming back without a love for the show...can't answer to that one. Don't know if he loves it or not. But as an actor - it's a full-time gig.

It was his decision to leave the show, no?Or did I get that wrong? If he did, there must have been a reason.

And oddly enough, could see him begin to parrot a lot of Jack's behaviour.

*snorts* Dunno, but I think he would lose some of that naitivity for sure!

It'll be interesting to see if they can make this upcoming one fresh and unique. Well, we'll see.

I guess. What bugs me about S7 though is the lack of Jack based episodes as they always have been my fave. I try to console myself with the idea that most team based episodes tend to put Jack in the spotlight.

For a TV show, it's just not worth getting that annoyed. No one will ever convince me otherwise. I save my annoyance energy for other things.

A very healthy attitude! It should be about enjoying the show, and some people seem to be forgetting that.

Maybe we should just shove all those people into a room, lock the door...yeah that's it. Thought there was going to be more. ;)

Oooooo, a very good idea. I was gonna say "shoot them all, let god sort them out" but this works too ;o)

I know this may be hard to believe, but there may be some Danielites that ac

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 08:36 am (UTC)(link)
You're probably right on that one! Well I really hope you are!

That's not to say that the campaign didn't have any sway, it's just that if 1. they really didn't get along with MS (think that's another myth) or 2. they truly believed they had no more Daniel stories to tell, they wouldn't have done it.

It was his decision to leave the show, no?Or did I get that wrong? If he did, there must have been a reason.

From my understanding (and I may be wrong), it was MS' decision to leave the show. He thought his character had grown stagnant (and he sounded kind of tired of it all) and wanted to move on to other acting opportunities. Which sounds good in theory, but as a lot of actors find out once they leave a show, it's not as easy finding new gigs as they thought. (This happens over and over again - you'd think actors would catch a clue - stick with the paying gig!) So when TPTB offered him the part again (yes, from everything I've read it was TPTB that approached him, not the other way around) he jumped at it. Gotta pay those bills!

*snorts* Dunno, but I think he would lose some of that naitivity for sure!

Yeah - just a little theory I was working on. *g*

I guess. What bugs me about S7 though is the lack of Jack based episodes as they always have been my fave. I try to console myself with the idea that most team based episodes tend to put Jack in the spotlight.

I *think* I read that RDA's schedule was going to be the same as last year - which I interpreted as he'd have roughly the same amount of screen time as last year. If you remember, there were a few episodes in the middle of S6 that were very RDA-lite or even non-existent. What I'm hoping is that they're getting the RDA-lite episodes out of the way up front this time instead of in the middle.

A very healthy attitude! It should be about enjoying the show, and some people seem to be forgetting that.

Yeah - it's something that confuses me.

Oooooo, a very good idea. I was gonna say "shoot them all, let god sort them out" but this works too ;o)

I might be more humane. I'm even thinking about having a food hole. ;)

Whoopsie - looks like the rest of your message got cut off.
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[personal profile] woodface 2003-07-16 10:25 am (UTC)(link)
That's not to say that the campaign didn't have any sway, it's just that if 1. they really didn't get along with MS (think that's another myth) or 2. they truly believed they had no more Daniel stories to tell, they wouldn't have done it.

Probably not, it was just refreshing to have a new character on board, I guess. Well Jonas isn't entirely gone as there are still episodes centered around him coming up.

So when TPTB offered him the part again (yes, from everything I've read it was TPTB that approached him, not the other way around) he jumped at it. Gotta pay those bills!

Ah, didn't know that they offered it to him. I guess he probably asked for better conditions for his character then. I kinda see his reasoning though, how many girlfriends can he possible keep losing to the Goa'uld? ;o)

What I'm hoping is that they're getting the RDA-lite episodes out of the way up front this time instead of in the middle.

I so hope that you're right but I'm a bit afraid that it won't be like that. I read somewhere that RDA supposedly (not sure how correct this is) will stop shooting earlier. Now, I know they don't always shoot everything in order but it does hint that he might be less present. Of course that's all assumptions and remains to be seen. I prefer your idea!

I'm even thinking about having a food hole. ;)

Whuzz ;o)

Whoopsie - looks like the rest of your message got cut off.

Ah man! There goes my whole analysis of Scorched Earth!

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 10:39 am (UTC)(link)
Probably not, it was just refreshing to have a new character on board, I guess.

Oh, I agree. I still wish they didn't have to dump Jonas. I loved the Daniel/Jonas interaction in Homecoming and really wanted more after that. That whole dynamic would have been something fresh and new in S7.

Well Jonas isn't entirely gone as there are still episodes centered around him coming up.

Looking forward to that.

Ah, didn't know that they offered it to him.

Like I said, that's my understanding from what I've read from TPTB/MS. I could be wrong.

I guess he probably asked for better conditions for his character then. I kinda see his reasoning though, how many girlfriends can he possible keep losing to the Goa'uld? ;o)

Heh heh.

I read somewhere that RDA supposedly (not sure how correct this is) will stop shooting earlier.

I haven't seen that one.

Of course that's all assumptions and remains to be seen.

Yep, and I'm making an assumption too.

I prefer your idea!

Me too! :)

Ah man! There goes my whole analysis of Scorched Earth!

Dammit!
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[personal profile] woodface 2003-07-16 10:41 am (UTC)(link)
That whole dynamic would have been something fresh and new in S7.

Yeah, I think I would have liked to see that. Well I still haven't seen anything from S7, but I think Jonas and Daniel could make a sort of alliance lol.

Dammit!

Suuuure ;oP

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 10:49 am (UTC)(link)
Well I still haven't seen anything from S7

Whoops - didn't know that. I shouldn't have said anything.

but I think Jonas and Daniel could make a sort of alliance lol.

Just think how much the two of them combined would be able to annoy the hell out of Jack! :D
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[personal profile] woodface 2003-07-16 11:16 am (UTC)(link)
Whoops - didn't know that. I shouldn't have said anything.

Hmm, you didn't really give me spoilers. Now someone else *mutters*

Just think how much the two of them combined would be able to annoy the hell out of Jack! :D

Poor Jack! Hee! Would be so fun cause he would both tease them. Think he'd get back up from Sam?

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 11:38 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm, you didn't really give me spoilers. Now someone else *mutters*

Bad person!

Poor Jack! Hee! Would be so fun cause he would both tease them. Think he'd get back up from Sam?

I kinda think Sam would be egging Jonas & Daniel on. Can't you just see her trying not to smirk?
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[personal profile] woodface 2003-07-16 11:40 am (UTC)(link)
Bad person!

Indeed!

I kinda think Sam would be egging Jonas & Daniel on. Can't you just see her trying not to smirk?

Ow yeah, just thought she might eventually cave if they confused him too badly. Then again, probably not!

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Ow yeah, just thought she might eventually cave if they confused him too badly. Then again, probably not!

Yeah, her sense of obligation to her commander would probably kick in. Although I get the suspicion she likes confusing him. *g*
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[personal profile] woodface 2003-07-16 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Although I get the suspicion she likes confusing him. *g*

Uh huh, she'd probably save him from Daniel and Jonas, and just when he feels safe: tricks him herself ;o) But I think he might like being confused by her!

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 02:39 pm (UTC)(link)
But I think he might like being confused by her!

Yeah. Well, to a point. Even Jack's got his limits. :D
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[personal profile] woodface 2003-07-16 02:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. Well, to a point. Even Jack's got his limits. :D

*snickers* Poor bloke!

[identity profile] tv-elf.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 08:58 am (UTC)(link)
And the same is true of S/J people. There are some very hard core S/J fans that think Jack and Sam are great and Daniel sucks and should leave.

Can they all leave so I get my All Teal'c show? No? Darn. ;) I'm not a huge Danny fan. By S4 I was tempted to start throwing things at the screen during his more incessant scenes. But I'm not anti-Danny. I'm just anti-Danny as a god in fanfic. I'll watch him in the show, but I'll avoid any fanfic that has him saving the day by pulling a rabbit out of his ... you know.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 09:08 am (UTC)(link)
Can they all leave so I get my All Teal'c show? No? Darn. ;)

Hahahaha!!

I'm not a huge Danny fan. By S4 I was tempted to start throwing things at the screen during his more incessant scenes. But I'm not anti-Danny.

Yeah, and there is a difference between not particularly enjoying the character and being anti-Danny.

I'm just anti-Danny as a god in fanfic. I'll watch him in the show, but I'll avoid any fanfic that has him saving the day by pulling a rabbit out of his ... you know.

Heh. Well thank goodness that fanfic and the show are two very different things.

[identity profile] tv-elf.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 09:55 am (UTC)(link)
Can they all leave so I get my All Teal'c show? No? Darn. ;)
Hahahaha!!

C'mon. Who's with me? STD! Save Teal'c Dammit! Sure, he doesn't need saving, but eh, semantics. Or Shirtless Teal'c, Dammit! Yeah, much better.

Yeah, and there is a difference between not particularly enjoying the character and being anti-Danny.

Now, how to explain that to others...

Heh. Well thank goodness that fanfic and the show are two very different things.

Are you sure???

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2003-07-16 10:16 am (UTC)(link)
C'mon. Who's with me? STD! Save Teal'c Dammit! Sure, he doesn't need saving, but eh, semantics. Or Shirtless Teal'c, Dammit! Yeah, much better.

Teal'c should *always* be shirtless!

Now, how to explain that to others...

No use.

Are you sure???

Well, sometimes it's easy to forget.