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DW Family of Blood
- Awesome!Martha! Woo! She really rocked the beginning of this episode. And they also remembered Martha was studying to be a doctor. *gives PTB a cookie*
- Not quite sure why they had to have John Smith have a moment watching the children shooting. It's like I almost know, but not quite.
- "I'm just a story." John wants to be more than a superhero – he wants to be real. And there's the rub. Even when the Doctor, he *can't* just be the superhero. He needs more to be real.
- "Falling in love. That didn't even occur to him? What sort of man is that?" *sighs* That's the Doctor. Someone who pushes that down, freaks out about it and can't even say it. That's the kind of man. And yes, he does really need to be slapped upside the head for it.
- Ohhhh. DAMMIT. See, they do this every single episode! They have Martha doing something cool and then they go and make her say things like, "He's everything to me. He doesn't even look at me but I don't care because I love him to bits." Sweet Lord. *SHAKES MARTHA*
- OMG. I knew that the Doctor/John and Joan would get pounded into little angst smudges. Letting him see that happy life with Joan seemed CRUEL.
- For some reason I can't be really that upset about the "death" of John Smith. Maybe if I'd gotten to know him over a series or something. I was grinning when the Doctor suddenly emerged and started babbling.
- Wow. Talk about a twisted end the Doctor gave the Family as punishment. But very fitting of the supposed "fairy tale" of the Doctor's life. And we're not talking Disney kind of fairy tales. You ever read them? They're actually quite dark.
- And the Doctor wants to start again with Joan. He begs for her to come with him. (Called it months ago. Mwah.) And you know he *wants* what John Smith had. He had it before with Rose, but Rose is gone forever. You know he isn't just asking Joan merely to go traveling with him either since he keeps talking about John being inside him. He really does want love. He wants to be more than just a story. But, OUCH. I didn't expect Joan to be quite so harsh. I can see it though - her husband was killed by a gun and now more people have been killed because the Doctor came there on a whim. She can't live with that.
- The Doctor thanking Martha and giving her a bear hug was really sweet.
- The ending was...weird. I mean, it was nice and all, but I guess I didn't get the point of it. Maybe to show that while the Doctor does bring destruction, he also brings salvation? He is fire and ice and burns, ancient and forever, but he's also wonderful? I dunno. The ending fell a bit flat for me.
- ETA: OH! Forgot to talk about this bit! One thing I'd been worried about with this episode arc (especially with the way S3's been going) was the motivation for becoming human. Which turned out fine. But the ending with the repeat of the CiN special "Can you change back?" "Yes." "Will you?" "No." is that the Doctor has a chance to do that happiness thing with Joan, but doesn't. Really, he could go back into the machine and make everything go away again, living that life that John was desperate to cling to. But he doesn't. Even after all the crap he's been through, he's still the Doctor and really does want that life. That makes me happy.
- ETA2: And another mention about that "Can you change back?" thing - yeah, that was pretty harsh to Joan. And there again, the Doctor is the Doctor. He doesn't even see that it was harsh. Can't see that to Joan, the Doctor has only brought destruction - to people and to John Smith. Not until he has it spelled out for him does he get it. Yeah, he may have all the emotions that humans have (and has always had, even before this episode), but he still completely sucks at it all.
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I was also a bit with the *BLINK* at his harsh.
"Can you change back?"
"Yes."
"Will you?"
"No."
I mean, of course not. But it was just, "No." And I really liked the ending with how twisted he was to the family. You're right with the fairy tales. *nods* And the way it went to the kid all grown up and getting medals and being honored? I liked that he could see the Doctor and Martha and they could see HIM at the end of HIS life. It was just touching for me.
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And the way it went to the kid all grown up and getting medals and being honored? I liked that he could see the Doctor and Martha and they could see HIM at the end of HIS life. It was just touching for me.
Yeah, I guess. I didn't really connect to it though for some reason. Maybe I wasn't in that kind of mood or something when I watched it. :-\
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Deep man deep.
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I'm getting resigned to it, enough that it made me glad she seems to have accepted that she's a different kind of important to him from what she started out looking for. Even that "You fell in love with a human, and it wasn't me" had a bit of regret to it, but not the OMGWOEISME that it could have. Add to that the evidence that she has felt perfectly free to connect with other guys all along (Shakespeare struck out on his own merits, but under other circumstances I think the escape-pod guy in "42" might have been another story), and right now I'm thinking she'll be fine. The thing I was afraid of with the phrase "unrequited love" was the stereotypical "If I can't have this person in the precise way I imagine I will never be happy." I'll admit to being slightly surprised they're avoiding that territory.
The ending fell a bit flat for me.
Which one? It had nearly as many as AI. (My joke about that was that Spielberg kept trying to get a happy one until he had to give up.) But yeah, it felt like it sort of...trailed off for, like, ever. And then it got to the memorial service and the poppies, and I went "Oh, of course...no, wait. That would be Armistice Day. In November. Okay, I have no idea."
But the ending with the repeat of the CiN special "Can you change back?" "Yes." "Will you?" "No." is that the Doctor has a chance to do that happiness thing with Joan, but doesn't.
*nods* I was also reminded of the exchange between him and Rose right after he regenerated. Wonder if it was intentional or just a happy accident. That one was a can't, of course, but would the answer have been any different? Going back is just not what he does.
Yeah, he may have all the emotions that humans have (and has always had, even before this episode), but he still completely sucks at it all.
Amen.
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Well, hopefully.
Even that "You fell in love with a human, and it wasn't me" had a bit of regret to it, but not the OMGWOEISME that it could have.
I was getting a bit more "woe." Actually, it sounded like a whine to me, but not sure that was the actual intent of that scene.
and right now I'm thinking she'll be fine.
I hope so. Because I think they just gave us Martha's driving force for TARDIS travel. There've been tons of companions who thought it was fun or were out to see the wonders of the universe. And of course some there by accident. But Martha seems to be there because the Doctor is her "everything." And it's...a bit unsettling. I mean, even with Rose who loved the Doctor, you still got a sense of her really digging that life.
Which one? It had nearly as many as AI. (My joke about that was that Spielberg kept trying to get a happy one until he had to give up.)
HA! Yeah, it was the memorial service that seemed a bit unnecessary to me. I mean, it was nice and all, but I couldn't figure out what it was doing there.
Wonder if it was intentional or just a happy accident.
With all the repeating going on in S3, I'm sure it was intentional. :D
That one was a can't, of course, but would the answer have been any different? Going back is just not what he does.
Dunno, really. Although his response the first time was different. He's asking her if she wants him to. Well, his whole attitude is different in it.
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*nods* The whole thing was sort of reversed, really -- asking Rose if she wanted him to (when he knew it was hypothetical) was gauging her. Joan asking him if he would (when it wasn't) was gauging him. But in both cases it was the woman making the call about whether to continue. Not a one-to-one parallel by any means, but an interesting echo.
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