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North & South
Oooh, yeah. I see why everyone was plugging North & South. (The 2004 BBC production and not the 80s mini-series about the Civil War.)
And I see why it was being compared to Pride & Prejudice. A lot of the same structure is there as far as the love story goes, but where Pride & Prejudice was more light and silly, North & South is gritty and real. It also has an actual story aside from the love story, and the characters aren't really caricatures as a few are in Pride & Prejudice.
Plus, a few familiar faces from Who! Suki! And Lynda with a Y!
If you liked the Pride & Prejudice mini (or even the movie, I suppose), you really should check out North & South. *plugs* I'll definitely watch this again in the future.
Of course, after this and Pride & Prejudice, I'm now convinced that all English men from this general time period were complete and utter crap at declarations of love.
And I see why it was being compared to Pride & Prejudice. A lot of the same structure is there as far as the love story goes, but where Pride & Prejudice was more light and silly, North & South is gritty and real. It also has an actual story aside from the love story, and the characters aren't really caricatures as a few are in Pride & Prejudice.
Plus, a few familiar faces from Who! Suki! And Lynda with a Y!
If you liked the Pride & Prejudice mini (or even the movie, I suppose), you really should check out North & South. *plugs* I'll definitely watch this again in the future.
Of course, after this and Pride & Prejudice, I'm now convinced that all English men from this general time period were complete and utter crap at declarations of love.
- Man: *barges in*
Woman: I'm sorry, I fear I cannot pay attention to you for the dearest friend of my third cousin has glanced at a house of ill repute.
Man: This matters not, for I am uncomfortably telling you that I am in love with you.
Woman: In addition, my father sneezed this morning, which could possibly be the death of him. I am quite worried.
Man: You must tell me you love me too.
Woman: And a horse squashed my cat.
Man: Dammit, woman! I must have an answer!
Woman: Then, sir, I shall answer you in the way of all women of my time: to give you a verbal slapping and send you on your way, where you will pine for me for at least a fortnight, possibly several fortnights, before I say yes to you. And you know from my use of 'sir' instead of calling you Mr. Henthorpe, that you are being punished for lack of due respect to the dearest friend of my third cousin, my father, and my cat, in a way that will give you the clearest of understanding who will be in charge after we are married. With that, I bid good day to you, sir!
Man: Maybe if I got you a new cat?
Woman: We'll see.
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Seriously, the above is pure WIN.
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all roads lead to who
Re: all roads lead to who
And, you know, it probably was very similar. :D
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I liked the non-romance parts of N&S. Frankly, I couldn't figure out what whatsherface and whatshisname saw in each other.
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:D
I liked the non-romance parts of N&S. Frankly, I couldn't figure out what whatsherface and whatshisname saw in each other.
It seemed pretty standard combativeUST, combativeUST, combativeUST, declaration of love, combativeUST, combativeUST, GLEE. But I went with it. I'm a sucker.
But I did like that there was an actual story going on about labor relations, instead of the romance being *the* story.
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You know, generally I like combative UST (Northern Exposure, Moonlighting, Farscape, Earth 2, any number of other examples I could name), but it leaves me completely cold in certain situations. I actually wrote a whole post trying to figure out why that was, and I eventually concluded that it was because this and other Regency and Victorian iterations of combative UST pretty much keep to the woman's POV (thus making the guy look like an ass the whole time), and that the power difference between the genders at that time is inescapable, and the whole thing ends up feeling kind of icky.
But I did like that there was an actual story going on about labor relations, instead of the romance being *the* story.
Yeah, I really appreciated that.
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Too damn funny. Must watch this now.
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(Sorry to randomly interrupt - I've been working my way through it over the last couple weeks.)
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You're not wrong!
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Arranged marriages, has to be; why else would the likes of George III have had 15 children?
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Indeed; and the fact that women wrote both of the novels under reference, with that rather unpleasant way of viewing men and their ability to emote at any level, is depressing in itself.
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You would probably love a novel called "Nice Work" by David Lodge. Basically it's a campus novel about a junior academic who is sent, to her disgust, to shadow a factory owner in modern Birmingham. A grudging mutual respect develops, but is severely tested when the hapless industrialist finds himself falling for her. Because Lodge is a skilled Eng Lit academic himself his skewering of the Victorian Industrial novel in general, and N&S in particular, is a joy.
The title "Nice Work" is a typical play on words - it refers of course not only to "Nice work if you can get it" but also the British prejudice against "dirty" industry and the working class.
The hunk who played Thornton went on to set hearts a'flutter as Rochester in Jane Eyre, the 2006 version, also available on BBC DVD.
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Oh, that sounds interesting!
The hunk who played Thornton went on to set hearts a'flutter as Rochester in Jane Eyre, the 2006 version, also available on BBC DVD.
Oooh, haven't seen that.
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Here's a link to the amazon UK excerpt for the David Lodge:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/reader/0140119213/ref=sib_dp_pt/203-9530374-8342310#reader-link
I don't t hink it's easy to get hold of in the US - if you have trouble let me know and I can mail you a copy. (Or, I have a friend visiting shortly from Washington State; she could bring one back for you)
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LOL! I had a similar reaction while watching "The Quatermass Experiment". It had DT, and his character was having an affair with Suzie from "Torchwood", and one of their colleagues was one of the writers on Who, Mark Gatiss. Hee!
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HEE! Now I'm beginning to see why I enjoy these minis so much. :D
But yay! for watching it! And yes, I also enjoyed the fact there's an actual subplot to the love story in N&S.
Plus, a few familiar faces from Who!
Oh, Michelle. I actually grimaced when I read this. I'M SORRY. I CAN'T HELP IT. :P
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But yay! for watching it! And yes, I also enjoyed the fact there's an actual subplot to the love story in N&S.
Yeah, that was really nice. Hooray for plot!!
Oh, Michelle. I actually grimaced when I read this. I'M SORRY. I CAN'T HELP IT. :P
You might consider getting help for that...
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