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[mrv3000]

AHHH! Fic, I stab at thee!!

Rose? You are a confusing person at times. Especially during S1. With Mickey. Not with Mickey. Kinda likes the Doctor. "Available." Highly flirtatious with the Doctor. Back with Mickey but runs after the Doctor. Not with Mickey.

No wonder the Doctor was a mess about it all during S1. *cough*BoomTown*cough*

The Mickey string-along was I think one of Rose's bigger flaws, and one I have a really hard time getting my head into. I mean, I do completely get it from a meta-type standpoint, but trying to figure out the internal narrative for fic purposes that goes along with it? ACK.

Maybe I should just switch the POV to Nine, and he and I can both be confused.

ETA: This is all because of a few lines in a FLUFF fic. Yes, I am exactly that neurotic.

Comments

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

I think Rose fell in love with the Doctor on a subconscious level in S1, so that's why her feelings seemed a little bit all over the place at times. She's out on an adventure, she likes flirting, but "dating and dancing" all seems fairly innocuous to her. What is it that she says to Mickey in Aliens of London? "He's not my boyfriend, Mickey. He's much more important than that."

Hmm. Yeah. Could be that she had him off in this whole other realm.

Which really doesn't indicate that Rose has a particularly high regard for romantic love.

Well, and it could be that Rose has only ever had the Mickey kinds of boyfriends in her life before. The more nice-guy comfortable kind of relationship. What was developing with the Doctor was probably completely new to her, and the only way she knew how to express that was that he was *not* her boyfriend (i.e., Mickey).

I've always seen her as having a lot of *fun* in S1, with the Doctor sneaking in without her realizing it. But she still put him first. Before Mickey and Adam and even Jack. By S2, I think she was ready to embrace all that love, whether it be on that close friendship level or that deeper romantic level. Kind of like the Doctor himself, actually. :D

Could very well be. Awwww.

As for Mickey, I don't think she realized how much she was stringing him along or how much more involved in the relationship he was. But she never lied to him. It's not like she ever said she'd stop traveling with the Doctor one day and settle down with him.

No, I don't really think she maliciously stringed him along either. Thoughtlessly, is another matter.

I kind of touched on this a bit in the one and only Nine/Rose fic I wrote.

That's lovely.

[marble-rose.livejournal.com]

Well, and it could be that Rose has only ever had the Mickey kinds of boyfriends in her life before. The more nice-guy comfortable kind of relationship

What about Jimmy Stones? I definitely don't think he fits that bill.

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

Okay, that was probably not a very good way to put that - the nice-guy comfortable thing, which Mickey is. What I was trying to go for was that there's love and then there's Love. Rose loves Mickey, but she Loves the Doctor. And I'm doing a really bad job of trying to get down the difference. :D

[marble-rose.livejournal.com]

Gotcha. I hope I didn't come off snappish. I think this is an interesting topic you have going, and I was trying to help puzzle through it. The reason I brought up Jimmy Stones was because you guys were talking about why Rose didn't hold romantic love in very high regard. It seems like part of the reason might have to do with her bad experience with Jimmy.

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

Oh no. And it really wasn't a good way to put it since sounds like Rose has had at least one boyfriend who wasn't the greatest influence in her past.

And there really might be something to that not necessarily holding romantic love in high regard. Rose has grown up watching Jackie having a rotating list of men in her life. Could well be a source of her abandonment issue with the Doctor, since all she's seen growing up is that men leave. It's what they do.