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When Sir Guy came to the aid of a nun, I realized that when he's not leaving his own children in the woods to die or killing random peasants, he's not that bad of a guy. I really have no idea why Marian doesn't see this. Instead of marrying Richard Armitage, she decides to become a nun. Apparently Marian is easily confused, and I'm starting to question her sanity.

Marian: The guy who likes me eats puppies for breakfast, and the guy I like would rather skulk around in a primitive version of a cliched ventilation shaft than have a conversation with me. I'd like to be a nun now, please.

Sir Guy: *broods and angsts over Marian wanting to be a nun*

Robin: *skulks around in a primitive version of a cliched ventilation shaft*

And because I love you all, a bonus brooding angsting shot:

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I know it's very, very wrong. But I ship Guy/Marian beyond belief.

A lot of this is because Richard Armitage is way too good for this show, and manages to take what could easily be a soulless cardboard character and turn it into something with layers and complexity. But also because Robin is an asshole, and in a way Guy manages to not be.

Evil =! Asshole.

...Which is all to say I think Marian is shit nuts for not wanting to marry Guy. He does actually love her. In his own Guy way.

I know it's very, very wrong. But I ship Guy/Marian beyond belief.

How could you not on this show? Oooh, I'd better be careful in case there are any actual Robin/Marian shippers around.

A lot of this is because Richard Armitage is way too good for this show, and manages to take what could easily be a soulless cardboard character and turn it into something with layers and complexity. But also because Robin is an asshole, and in a way Guy manages to not be.

HA! Yes. It's like - Sir Guy does something evil, but you're sitting there saying, "that's okay," and Robin does something noble and you're sitting there thinking he's sort of a dick. :D

...Which is all to say I think Marian is shit nuts for not wanting to marry Guy. He does actually love her. In his own Guy way.

Too bad he does, man. Because I have the notion that the PTB will want to wind up with Robin/Marian, which is just SILLY.

How could you not on this show? Oooh, I'd better be careful in case there are any actual Robin/Marian shippers around.

*snorts* Unfortunately, it would seem that Robin/Marian is the more popular in the comms I've been around. Actually, I found out about Robin Hood through a forum that DESPISED Gisborne (save for maybe two people). Crazy people.

and Robin does something noble and you're sitting there thinking he's sort of a dick. :D

The problem is, towards the end of the series (and I hope I'm not spoiling it too much), Robin really just becomes a gigantic disgusting dickhead to Marian about Guy. It's just...gah. Not to mention the way he treats Much. Bastard.

Because I have the notion that the PTB will want to wind up with Robin/Marian, which is just SILLY.

Well...it is silly. I think at some point you have to step back and say, 'Okay, should we go with the standard, classic ship even though the actors have very little chemistry, or do we go with them 100 times more interesting, CREATIVE, non-standard pairing that has a lot of chemistry' Now, obviously, the answer is the latter. But oh, that it weren't. It's like how the poor writers of Heroes really, really screwed themselves with the Peter/Claire storyline.

*snorts* Unfortunately, it would seem that Robin/Marian is the more popular in the comms I've been around.

Get out! Huh.

The problem is, towards the end of the series (and I hope I'm not spoiling it too much), Robin really just becomes a gigantic disgusting dickhead to Marian about Guy. It's just...gah. Not to mention the way he treats Much. Bastard.

Can't wait. :D

Okay, should we go with the standard, classic ship even though the actors have very little chemistry, or do we go with them 100 times more interesting, CREATIVE, non-standard pairing that has a lot of chemistry'

Shame, really.

I reckon that Guy/Marian was one of those big writer mistakes, they completely underestimated fandom's ability to love the bad guy, and ship the leading girl with him rather than the poncey good boy.

Ahh, silly fandom-ignorant writers XD

Well, YEAH. And beyond fandom, Guy is your typical romance-novel-type character: he's bad, but yet you see conflict and good-guy potential - if only he had a good woman to turn him around! :D It's a *classic* setup for the changes-his-ways romantic lead. Plus, he actually sells this longing for Marian, where Robin can't be assed about her, maybe giving her a wink when they meet up on the road somewhere. BAH.

Marian: I'm going to become a nun.

Guy: *broods, angsts, tries to bring up marriage again*

Me: Awwww.

vs.

Marian: I'm going to become a nun.

Robin: Well, see ya, I suppose. I'm off to steal some gold, for I am NOBLE!

Me: Marian, I have no idea what the history was between you two pre-show to keep you chasing after Robin, but I'm guessing damn good sex.

Guy is the best character in the show. Not because he's gorgeous (well that too! :D) but because he's more rounded. He's not a slightly stupid loveable hero like Robin, or a ridiculously over the top villian like the sheriff. He does have a soul and a conscience (but doesn't always use it) and he does love Marian.

Yes, totally! The Sherrif and, to a lesser extent, Robin are both pretty cartoony. It's like RA didn't get his "ham it up!" memo.

I think I really fell in love with Guy when he said that being with Marian would redeem him. He KNOWS that he's done bad things and isn't the greatest, but Marian is pure enough for the both of them (y'know, when she's not acting as a vigilante).

*loves you for the extra brooding shot*

Oooh, don't think I've come to that line yet! At least I don't remember it. GAH. Why isn't this the pairing on the show? Why?

I have to admit, I love this show for shallow reasons. Most of them being that I get the fangirl quivers any time Guy shows up on screen. (I do like Robin for shallow reasons too, but I also want to give him a good, swift kick in the arse.)

Richard Armitage is very very good at the angsty, brooding stare. He's also very good at the "Plz to be shagging me now kthx" stare. Its really no surprise that Guy/Marian is as popular as it is, since Robin/Marian don't have nearly as much on-screen chemistry, IMO. Of course, like David Tennant, Richard Armitage could have chemistry with a TREE.

RA: Tree, marry me. *intense stare*
Tree: *bursts into flames*

This really isn't a fandom or a show I plan on getting that heavily into really, but it does not surprise me a LICK if Guy/Marian is more popular than Robin/Marian. There's just this heat there (basically due to RA's acting), where I'm not seeing anything between Robin and Marian.

When Sir Guy came to the aid of a nun, I realized that when he's not leaving his own children in the woods to die or killing random peasants, he's not that bad of a guy.

I still maintain that he didn't leave his kid in the woods. He took the baby to the woods in which he knew Robin and his *ahem* merry men lived. Gay men make excellent nannies.

And thank you for the bonus brooding angsting shot. It's always necessary. Unless it's the rare happy smiley shot.

Also, remember what I said before about Marian totally getting booty calls from Guy? Maybe she just took the whole role playing thing to an extreme and forgot to tell him.

One last thing, I don't think Guy is so much a bad guy by choice as much as the sheriff has him over a barrel ~~possibly literally and definitely metaphorically~~.

I still maintain that he didn't leave his kid in the woods. He took the baby to the woods in which he knew Robin and his *ahem* merry men lived. Gay men make excellent nannies.

Mwah.

And thank you for the bonus brooding angsting shot. It's always necessary. Unless it's the rare happy smiley shot.

Haven't seen many of those yet. But he does brood just so well.

Also, remember what I said before about Marian totally getting booty calls from Guy? Maybe she just took the whole role playing thing to an extreme and forgot to tell him.

Oooooh! That could be it!

One last thing, I don't think Guy is so much a bad guy by choice as much as the sheriff has him over a barrel ~~possibly literally and definitely metaphorically~~.

They need to crate up Robin and the Sherrif and ship them off to France so that Guy and Marian can live happily ever after.

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