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mrv3000 ([personal profile] mrv3000) wrote2008-05-03 09:43 am

We'll never see eye-to-eye about some things.

Got this link from [livejournal.com profile] beck_liz. This is SO true. The article talks about DW, BSG, Farscape, SGA, Torchwood, SJA and a few others. I not only fall into a couple of these "shows," I've got just about everyone she mentions on the flist. :-*

We're not watching the same show...but that's okay.

For the record, I've already got an attitude like this - I'm fine with whatever "show" you're watching - as long as you don't try and get me to see the error of my ways. I definitely won't try to get you to see the error of your ways.

What basically sums me up right now: (subject to change at any given moment)

24: The 'Splosions Show | The Jack and Chloe Show

BSG: The Ron Moore is on Crack Show | The 'Splosions Show

DW: The Doctor and Rose Show** | The RTD is on Crack Show

Lost: The I Want To Be Creeped Out Show | The Giraffeabear Fanclub Show

Torchwood: The Everyone in Cardiff is on Crack Show | The Waiting To See Jack's Ass Show

ETA: Project Runway: The Tim Gunn Show


** Not to be confused with The Rose Tyler Show, which really is a different animal.

[personal profile] shaela 2008-05-03 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
The Doctor and Rose Show**

** Not to be confused with The Rose Tyler Show, which really is a different animal.


Yeah, no kidding. I thought this quote from the article was right on the money—“Some are watching the ‘Rose Tyler Show,’ and are vexed at the continued absence of the lead.” I occasionally tune in to the Doctor/Rose Show, but that’s really just a stopgap till my show gets back from hiatus.

P.S. Thanks for sharing the link. I swear, that should be required reading for everyone in fandom.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I occasionally tune in to the Doctor/Rose Show, but that’s really just a stopgap till my show gets back from hiatus.

And that's pretty different from my take. But The Rose Tyler Show people and The Doctor and Rose Show people tend to hang out together. (And several are watching both shows.)

P.S. Thanks for sharing the link. I swear, that should be required reading for everyone in fandom.

Might make things a bit more pleasant. (Although some people are asshats no matter what kind of reason you try and give them.)

[identity profile] zinke.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)
What a great article - funny, accurate and anti-fandom wank; just my kind of thing. *g* Thanks for the link.





[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Happy to pass it along!

[identity profile] syokhan.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 06:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the link, that was a really great article. So true. And bonus points for the reference to the Harmonians *is still touchy about the matter*

I see we're not exactly watching the same Torchwood and DW shows, but we still agree on the 'crack' part ;)

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the link, that was a really great article. So true. And bonus points for the reference to the Harmonians *is still touchy about the matter*

I swear you'd need to be in a support group after HP fandom, from what I've read.

I see we're not exactly watching the same Torchwood and DW shows, but we still agree on the 'crack' part ;)

I think the crack might be a universal constant. :D

And even though I have these "shows," it doesn't mean I don't like other parts. Like I'm enjoying watching Donna this series. And Myfanwy's always a draw for me. ;)

[identity profile] syokhan.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I swear you'd need to be in a support group after HP fandom, from what I've read.

You bet. Most f***ed-up fandom I've ever seen, the shipwars were truly ugly and devastating. But I'm fine, so long as you don't mention the word 'delusional' in front of me ;)

And even though I have these "shows," it doesn't mean I don't like other parts.

Sure, I mean, even though I prefer the Gwen Cooper's Awesome Show, even I can't wait to see Jack's ass, you know ^^ (and the Doctor And Rose Show, although that's more prone to end in tears than the Jack's ass one...) I just wish more people were civilised about other people's preferences.

*off to watch the Confidential*

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
You bet. Most f***ed-up fandom I've ever seen, the shipwars were truly ugly and devastating.

I tried reading a couple of long sagas on it, but my eyes crossed and demanded a flow chart before going back.

But I'm fine, so long as you don't mention the word 'delusional' in front of me ;)

Sounds like "bats(c)hipper" to me. Oh please can I be called that again? Because I really haven't heard it enough, thanks.

I just wish more people were civilised about other people's preferences.

Me. Too.

I also wish fandom wouldn't freak the hell out every time someone makes a pairing/character/item-specific community. Yes, people have different interests, and sometimes like to talk about those different interests and those only. Just because there's a specific place to discuss Bessie that doesn't allow Whomobile discussion, does NOT automatically mean these people are Whomobile haters. Lord, fandom.

[identity profile] hologrphcbuddha.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 11:16 am (UTC)(link)
Excuse my butting in the convo... I must be weird or something b/c I have never had as much trouble in HP fandom as DW. I'm mostly in the H/Hr and D/Hr shipper circles, and I've always gotten along just fine with everyone, including non-H/Hr fans. I was pretty well-liked by the Fandom Wank crowd, who thought of me as one of the "sane" H/Hr shippers. They'd say things like, "I wish more H/Hr shippers were like you."

So yeah, I'm boggling a lot at how I suddenly became one of the Crazy D/R Trifecta (it seems like miladyhawke, 040bod, and myself get name-dropped the most on FW, which I find terribly amusing, seeing as I haven't participated in this fandom in over a year, outside my flist). I think I once got accused by a certain prominent DW fan who will remain nameless of being a JF spy or something. I had some hxc lulz over that one (in a twist of hilarious irony, they sure love using my icons over there). Admittedly for a while I started poking them, but that was after my rep had already been shot to hell so might as well enjoy the notoriety, ya know?

So yeah, HP was actually my "peaceful and quiet" fandom in comparison to DW. :p You know, recounting this story, it's no wonder I fled to the OC fandom, and then the Gossip Girl fandom. You know something's wrong when you go to teen soap fandoms for sanity and peace. :/

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure what it is about this fandom that brings out the hardcore junior high behavior. There was some of that back in SG-1 fandom, but mainly those kind of antics were a bit more rare (and mild) and would pretty much get an eyebrow raise.

I swear that the notion I get in the DW fandom is that there is a Holy Mission From God (on Baltarian levels) to have everyone in fandom think The Right Way. And any kind of liking Rose or liking canon is The Wrong Way. *facepalm*

Apparently "live and let live" is a phrase completely unheard of to some. And unfortunately you get branded for all of time.

[identity profile] hologrphcbuddha.livejournal.com 2008-05-05 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
I know, right? The thing is, other fandoms (particularly HP and Buffy, both of which I've been in) is that despite being very fractured, it was easy enough to avoid wank if you stuck to your own corner of fandom. You can't do that in DW fandom, b/c the h8rz are in pretty much every community. They even run the biggest shipper comm. That in itself is bizarre, b/c when shippers complain about being unable to avoid bashing in their own shipper comm, the mods claim it's for anything D/R, even if you hate it. That makes no sense, b/c the understanding in every other shipper comm I've been in is that it's pro-ship--bashing is against the rules. H8rz just don't hang out there, except for trolls who get banned eventually.

And then there's the whole bit about the Legendary D/R Shipper Wank That Never Was (I believe that's how I got labelled a "crazy shipper"... I started asking where all the wank was, in a completely non sarcastic way--I was a n00b and was genuinely curious. The impression I got from the response is that D/R shipper wank is like the Thestrals in HP, but in reverse. You can't see the wank unless you hate Rose!). Add the fact that nearly all the DW BNFs are friends and members of Fandom Wank, and it's just a big snowball effect of wankery.

[identity profile] cheapevilgirl.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 05:23 am (UTC)(link)
The Waiting To See Jack's Ass Show

Best one yet.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
:D
ext_5608: (laugh)

[identity profile] wiliqueen.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 01:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee! I've been meaning to do this type of post for the last couple days. Now I'll look like a big ole copycat! ;-D

But after going over it in my head, I'm pretty much watching most of my shows for the whole package. (Or like to think so, anyway.) I did come up with:

  • Vicki Nelson Kicks Ass, simultaneously with The PerkyGoth Files. They alternate positions between main screen and PiP.
  • After a decade of The Sam Carter Show, trying to get used to its having been mashed into What Stupid Thing Will The Atlantis Expedition Do Today?. Net result: Meh.
Edited 2008-05-04 13:35 (UTC)

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee! I've been meaning to do this type of post for the last couple days. Now I'll look like a big ole copycat! ;-D

Well, I was a copycat myself - saw it on the flist!

But after going over it in my head, I'm pretty much watching most of my shows for the whole package. (Or like to think so, anyway.)

I thought I watched the whole package for a couple of shows - especially the shows I don't ship on - but in thinking about it, I think I am a bit more specific. Like in Lost, there was a certain element last week that I was pretty much rolling my eyes and cringing at the whole time. And that's pretty standard whenever that element's on the show. Other parts I'm kind of ambivalent to, but some things I really like.

What Stupid Thing Will The Atlantis Expedition Do Today?

BWAH!!

[identity profile] wikidwitch.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
DW: The Doctor and Rose Show** | The RTD is on Crack Show

I think we're all pretty much in agreement on the second point ;)
ext_5608: (doctor who)

[identity profile] wiliqueen.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait, that's not the whole concept? ;->

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
MWAH.

[identity profile] threerings.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Awesome. This needs to be a meme. So I will also do this.

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Snifty!