The job has minsucked me this week. My brain feels numb.
Random WW quote: And you've got to ask yourself, if no one on the internet wants a piece of this, just how far from the pack have you strayed?
Yesterday I realized what was wrong in the fic I'm trying to write. I just don't care about any kind of plot I've thought of so far. I have 11,000 words of relationship/character stuff written, but the plot part could be "[insert adventure story here]." It sucks, and is exactly what happened to me when I tried to write a sequel to a post-Doomsday fic a couple of years ago. So I'm sort of depressed about it at the moment, since I have the feeling I'm doomed to repeat myself.
BORED. AND NUMB. (Helps to use the capslock on that.)
Er. Not that I'm at all qualified to be doling out advice to the likes of you but...
For me the key to making the plot as interesting as the relationship/character stuff is to design the plot so that, in the end, after all the adventuring and machinations, it winds up in some way metaphorically mirroring the developments in the characterisation department.
Er. Not that I'm at all qualified to be doling out advice to the likes of you but...
My secret identity of being a French spy has been discovered! :D
For me the key to making the plot as interesting as the relationship/character stuff is to design the plot so that, in the end, after all the adventuring and machinations, it winds up in some way metaphorically mirroring the developments in the characterisation department.
So. Yeah. I'll just leave that there for you.
And the thing is that I sorta had the very basics of a plot that would relate to the characters. The concept would relate to the characters, but the tricky part is trying to figure out that X happened and then Y happened and then Z and, surprisingly enough, Q happened. And once I started laying out details, I kept finding holes.
Man, me too. What is with this week? I blame November.
Maybe you could just get rid of the plot completely and post the fic as a series of one-shots based purely on the relationship stuff. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. :D People LOVE reading the relationship stuff, and if that's what you like writing then everyone wins. *nods*
Man, me too. What is with this week? I blame November.
It's just like... BLAH.
Maybe you could just get rid of the plot completely and post the fic as a series of one-shots based purely on the relationship stuff. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. :D People LOVE reading the relationship stuff, and if that's what you like writing then everyone wins. *nods*
I would be really tempted, but the only problem is that most everything I've written has arrows pointing towards their first trip in their new TARDIS. So it'd seem weird to do all that (including showing the Doctor's solo safety flight) and then...not go anywhere. :D
Maybe they should just go to a planet with prancing ponies. And rainbows. THE END.
I've been pondering that. The only thing is that I wrote an ending scene already that's supposed to mirror the opening scene. One takes place on Earth and one takes place on the TARDIS after the adventure. I like the symmetry, but I could always chuck it.
Jack: Right. This would be your standard alien thing that's bigger on the inside.
Daniel: [pushes up glasses] Seen many of those, have you Jack?
Jack: Well, you know. I've been around. Seen things. Strange things. Like Carter not trying to get naquada out of the aliens on the last planet. That was weird, wasn't it?
Carter: I had a cold! Uh...sir.
Teal'c: Indeed. The mucus emanating from Major Carter was most unpleasant.
Doctor and Rose: [enter console room in a groping flail of limbs]
Jack: All right, Daniel.
Daniel: [stares at the mash of bodies and hands] All right what?
Jack: First contact. And....go!
Carter: And don't forget to ask about any naquada.
[sometime later]
Doctor and Rose: [shake hands with SG-1]
Doctor: I have to say, you all were brilliant! Simply brilliant! And I don't say that lightly.
Rose: Who knew that a dinosaur was really in the Big Ben tower?
Teal'c: [raises hand, but lowers since no one's paying attention to him anyway]
Jack: Have to say, you're not bad yourself, Doc. For a doctor, that is.
Doctor: Tell you what, I'm giving you all keys to the TARDIS, you were that stupendous! And so was that adventure! Best one I've ever been on! How about you?
Rose: Yup!
Doctor: Really?
Rose: Yeah.
Doctor: Yeah.
Doctor and Rose: [instantly start making out again]
Have you considered the tack of them going on the solo flight, and it turns out that the rest of the universe is also rather different from how things were back in N-Space?
I've been trying to work out what's different and what's the same in my mind. I think I've come to the conclusion that for the Earth to be in the same place it is, for the most part the rest of the universe is physically the same. The big difference will be in the people (all sentient creatures) effect. Like turning up on a planet that's inhabited in this universe that wasn't in the other. Or a dead system that's been mined clean of resources in one universe but not the other.
Well, one thing that could be a launching pad for an adventure would be something that's physically different that shouldn't be different. Y'know, he gets all befuddled, and Rose suggests it's just like any of the other weird little differences, but the point is it's not. Something all scientific, like in order for things to be missing or the way they are, the stellar chemistry for the entire galaxy would have to be different, or other basic physical laws would have to be different in such a way as to bork everything else around it up as well.
I'm having exactly that problem with my fic. Donna and Handy have just pinched the TARDIS, and I want to do all the fallout of that for Ten and Rose, but I can't be arsed to come up with an interesting place for the TARDIS to go.
You could always take one of the BBC Ten/Rose novels and have them go there as 10.5 and Rose.
Shakespeare only wrote about two original plots, you know. Apparently in those days they preferred a clever remake of a classic. So what else is new, I hear you ask.
I'm having exactly that problem with my fic. Donna and Handy have just pinched the TARDIS, and I want to do all the fallout of that for Ten and Rose, but I can't be arsed to come up with an interesting place for the TARDIS to go.
Yes! This!
You could always take one of the BBC Ten/Rose novels and have them go there as 10.5 and Rose.
Hmmmmmm. That's worth a ponder.
Shakespeare only wrote about two original plots, you know. Apparently in those days they preferred a clever remake of a classic. So what else is new, I hear you ask.
I could just copy stuff from a forum, ocassionally throwing in lines like, "The Doctor stared at the nonsense before him, realising there was only one universal truth: Rose happied him." :D
XD I'd read it. Well, depending on which forum it was... *eyes some of the DW message boards dubiously* You couldn't pay me to read some of that stuff, even with the Doctor's helpful comments.
Icons? What now? It was a quote from the West Wing when CJ swore that you could balance an egg on its end at the exact moment of the equinox. She looked it up and couldn't find anything that said it was true, and Toby rattled off the line. :D
My nano work is not really working. I had hope that my creative energy was funneling off to some of the writers with WIPs I follow. It isn't. *sigh*
I hate that feeling. Hate it.
On the other hand, I would totally be okay with fade to black plot. :D
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For me the key to making the plot as interesting as the relationship/character stuff is to design the plot so that, in the end, after all the adventuring and machinations, it winds up in some way metaphorically mirroring the developments in the characterisation department.
So. Yeah. I'll just leave that there for you.
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My secret identity of being a French spy has been discovered! :D
For me the key to making the plot as interesting as the relationship/character stuff is to design the plot so that, in the end, after all the adventuring and machinations, it winds up in some way metaphorically mirroring the developments in the characterisation department.
So. Yeah. I'll just leave that there for you.
And the thing is that I sorta had the very basics of a plot that would relate to the characters. The concept would relate to the characters, but the tricky part is trying to figure out that X happened and then Y happened and then Z and, surprisingly enough, Q happened. And once I started laying out details, I kept finding holes.
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Maybe you could just get rid of the plot completely and post the fic as a series of one-shots based purely on the relationship stuff. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. :D People LOVE reading the relationship stuff, and if that's what you like writing then everyone wins. *nods*
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It's just like... BLAH.
Maybe you could just get rid of the plot completely and post the fic as a series of one-shots based purely on the relationship stuff. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. :D People LOVE reading the relationship stuff, and if that's what you like writing then everyone wins. *nods*
I would be really tempted, but the only problem is that most everything I've written has arrows pointing towards their first trip in their new TARDIS. So it'd seem weird to do all that (including showing the Doctor's solo safety flight) and then...not go anywhere. :D
Maybe they should just go to a planet with prancing ponies. And rainbows. THE END.
My icon. It mocks me.
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Of course, I've basically abandoned that, but ANYWAY. At least that way you don't have to come up with the idea on your own.
Or maybe you could just "fade to black"... but for the plot? And then have the Doctor and Rose pick back up at the end?
Okay, I'm not helping.
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Daniel: [pushes up glasses] Seen many of those, have you Jack?
Jack: Well, you know. I've been around. Seen things. Strange things. Like Carter not trying to get naquada out of the aliens on the last planet. That was weird, wasn't it?
Carter: I had a cold! Uh...sir.
Teal'c: Indeed. The mucus emanating from Major Carter was most unpleasant.
Doctor and Rose: [enter console room in a groping flail of limbs]
Jack: All right, Daniel.
Daniel: [stares at the mash of bodies and hands] All right what?
Jack: First contact. And....go!
Carter: And don't forget to ask about any naquada.
[sometime later]
Doctor and Rose: [shake hands with SG-1]
Doctor: I have to say, you all were brilliant! Simply brilliant! And I don't say that lightly.
Rose: Who knew that a dinosaur was really in the Big Ben tower?
Teal'c: [raises hand, but lowers since no one's paying attention to him anyway]
Jack: Have to say, you're not bad yourself, Doc. For a doctor, that is.
Doctor: Tell you what, I'm giving you all keys to the TARDIS, you were that stupendous! And so was that adventure! Best one I've ever been on! How about you?
Rose: Yup!
Doctor: Really?
Rose: Yeah.
Doctor: Yeah.
Doctor and Rose: [instantly start making out again]
THE END.
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See, you get all the crazy crossover stuff, an implied plot, AND the Doctor and Rose making out. I'm not sure why anyone wouldn't want to read this.
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You could always take one of the BBC Ten/Rose novels and have them go there as 10.5 and Rose.
Shakespeare only wrote about two original plots, you know. Apparently in those days they preferred a clever remake of a classic. So what else is new, I hear you ask.
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Yes! This!
You could always take one of the BBC Ten/Rose novels and have them go there as 10.5 and Rose.
Hmmmmmm. That's worth a ponder.
Shakespeare only wrote about two original plots, you know. Apparently in those days they preferred a clever remake of a classic. So what else is new, I hear you ask.
I should just pilfer an old MacGuyver plot.
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Write about an alien virus that makes peoples' brains dribble out their ears. AND MAKES THEM TALK IN CAPSLOCK. *Nods* Clearly this is a genius idea.
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Were they writing for the icons?
My nano work is not really working. I had hope that my creative energy was funneling off to some of the writers with WIPs I follow. It isn't. *sigh*
On the other hand, I would totally be okay with fade to black plot. :D
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Icons? What now? It was a quote from the West Wing when CJ swore that you could balance an egg on its end at the exact moment of the equinox. She looked it up and couldn't find anything that said it was true, and Toby rattled off the line. :D
My nano work is not really working. I had hope that my creative energy was funneling off to some of the writers with WIPs I follow. It isn't. *sigh*
I hate that feeling. Hate it.
On the other hand, I would totally be okay with fade to black plot. :D
Heh heh.
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