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Well, even though my flist was very good about cutting, moods and tags sorta gave away something huge. So, I figured there was probably a character death coming. And since Jack's had a few turns already, that left Ianto, Gwen or Rhys.

Poor Ianto. *sniffs* Couldn't you spit out the L word for a dying man, Jack? *kicks him*

I'm actually pretty surprised that they killed him off since Owen and Tosh were just killed off too! YEESH! Makes me wonder if Gwen's going to make it tomorrow. It wouldn't be the first time Jack's had to rebuild Torchwood after everyone's died. Maybe...the idea is to start fresh if there is a S4 of Torchwood? :-\

I'm thinking RTD better be wearing body armor at ComicCon though. I don't think he could run very fast. (I'm just glad he's always had a philosophy that the Doctor's companions never die. He finds a way to traumatize them enough as it is!)

The alien in the tank actually is the alien, in spite of my theory. But they still don't really make sense. I'm glad Gwen (I think it was her) asked the question of "yeah, but what do they need the kids for?" even after we saw inside the tank. Because...WHY? They better explain that tomorrow instead of leaving it as a big mystery. :P

However, they are pretty well screwed, aren't they? Now would be a great time to call the Doctor.

(Also, was I the only one thinking that Jack was eying that tank and thinking he might like to give that a try himself someday? :D)

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(Also, was I the only one thinking that Jack was eying that tank and thinking he might like to give that a try himself someday? :D)
NOOOOOOO!! How can you bring up the Face of Boe at a time like this?!! Now I have sporfled in spite of myself!!
Is tomorrow the finale?

NOOOOOOO!! How can you bring up the Face of Boe at a time like this?!! Now I have sporfled in spite of myself!!

Sorry! :D

Is tomorrow the finale?

Yup! *rubs hands*

That's OK. I forgive you because you have now sporfled me out of my mood enough that I might be able to go to sleep. :-) Thank you.

I want to brag to someone that I totally called it that asshattery of humans would be the theme of this series. I miss Harriet Jones like woah.

It wouldn't be the first time Jack's had to rebuild Torchwood after everyone's died. Maybe...the idea is to start fresh if there is a S4 of Torchwood? :-\
Yeesh is right. What way for the era to end!! *blinks* I still *can't believe* they did that.

That's OK. I forgive you because you have now sporfled me out of my mood enough that I might be able to go to sleep. :-) Thank you.

Woo! :D

I want to brag to someone that I totally called it that asshattery of humans would be the theme of this series. I miss Harriet Jones like woah.

Yeah, that meeting was... *shudders*

Yeesh is right. What way for the era to end!! *blinks* I still *can't believe* they did that.

Yeah, me either.

My current default emotion: Oh please let RTD be fucking with us and Ianto comes back. (i'll accept that is due to Jack sharing his life force back in Cyberwoman) PLEASE!!!

Ignore me and my relentless DENIAL!

He might! I wouldn't put it past him to screw with everyone like that.

I'm clinging to that idea.

--Erin

I think the aliens are using the human children like parasites or symbiotes for their own health or whatever. The kids clearly are attached (well, the one we saw is), and I'll bet they tried it as an experiment and now suddenly some majority of their population needs 'em.

Then again, it wouldn't be the first time Rusty fooled me, even though I'm pretty damn good (and cynical) about plotting within the SF genre.

That meeting in Downing Street. ::shudders:: I wonder how many people in the US will truly understand the underpinnings of that thought process, though; the class structure and the educational system? Yeah, the States has tried to be more equitable in schooling, with notable successes and some doozies of failures (hello, bussing in the 1960s, anyone?), but even with the inequality of education in the States, the mindset is different. I dunno, I may be speaking out of my ass, but when I was living in the UK and Ireland, I found that few people back in the States had the same perspective of generation upon generation of a class system that was the same.

Even without that understanding, a literal decimation of the population of the children of Earth, taken from (at least in the UK, and we can bet it would be similar in many other countries, because class asshattery rules worldwide) the least advantaged famiiies, is more horrifying than the alien.

And I think that may be Rusty's point in the end. Who's the real monster?

Then again, it wouldn't be the first time Rusty fooled me, even though I'm pretty damn good (and cynical) about plotting within the SF genre.

You just never know with him, do you? But...it's really all very weird, isn't it? I guess they're like symbiotes. The strange thing seems to be that they've not really changed all that much in 40 years. Maybe there's some sort of enzyme that kids produce that they need. Hmmm.

That meeting in Downing Street. ::shudders::

That really was as horrifying as the alien itself.

I was living in the UK and Ireland, I found that few people back in the States had the same perspective of generation upon generation of a class system that was the same.

I couldn't help but to think that it wouldn't be the same discussion over here, since people important to society come from every class here. But then I wondered what kind of discussion would be taking place here.

Even without that understanding, a literal decimation of the population of the children of Earth, taken from (at least in the UK, and we can bet it would be similar in many other countries, because class asshattery rules worldwide) the least advantaged famiiies, is more horrifying than the alien.

People treating other people's children as "units" to be sold for their own safety? Yeah, it's pretty damn horrifying.

And I think that may be Rusty's point in the end. Who's the real monster?And I think that may be Rusty's point in the end. Who's the real monster?

He tends to do that, doesn't he?

You don't get the institutionalized classes in schools here, but we do still have that lower bunch of kids who don't succeed no matter what. But they can come from any walk of life.(I'm a teacher in RL.) It's more about if the parents are involved in their kids lives, and demand more of them. I've seen kids from families who live in situations that would make you cry, but the kids bloom because the parents take an interest and responsibility for their kids. I've also seen rich families who don't parent and their kids are empty.

*nods* I really don't feel like you could simply write off a whole school like they're doing in this story. Productive and non-productive people come from everywhere. (If that's going to be the criteria for getting rid of kids.)

IANTO!!!!!

*bawls*

Poor guy. :(

I reckon the aliens are just this one alien, "we" is his default way of speaking because there's no "I" in his language so it's misleading, and he's just doing what he's doing for lulz. You know, coz he can, and coz it's funny to screw with the human race? I'm still waiting to hear an evil laugh come out of those speakers.

Actually, I have no idea where this is going. And it feels a bit too soon to have another main character die, doesn't it? Was bummed that Clem was killed too. Him and Gwen were really sweet :(

And that meeting was chilling. Utterly disgusting.

The "we" isn't technically incorrect, either, since the child is part of it and still alive. Good point!

Agreed about the meeting. Jesus. That woman, especially.

(Though I did squee, inititally, to see Nick Briggs actually on screen!)

The "we" isn't technically incorrect, either, since the child is part of it and still alive.

Oh yeah, I didn't think about that!

(Though I did squee, inititally, to see Nick Briggs actually on screen!)

Me too. At first I kept wondering why he seemed so familiar, and then, all of a sudden, remembered the hundreds "Exterminate!" we saw him doing in the Confidentials. Heee :)

You really do expect an evil laugh, don't you?

And I still think something's not quite right with this alien thing. But if they've got the ability to transport millions of kids away, they've gotta have some sort of large ship or something.

The meeting was very disturbing.

You really do expect an evil laugh, don't you?

I do. In my mind, the weird wailing/sound the alien makes is, in fact, an evil laugh, albeit an alien one. I'm just waiting for the translator to translate it to, well, a human evil laugh *nods* Because all along, when he's been banging his heads/tails/appendices and spewing his goo all over the tank, he's really been laughing his alien ass or equivalent off. *nods again*

I bit more seriously, when I think of my crack theory, I keep remembering the Toclafane from S3 of DW. They killed because it was fun. In that case I don't see why an alien couldn't mess with humanity just for fun or because it's/he's/they're/whatever slightly insane ^^

(see how these shows have twisted me? *shakes fist*)

they've gotta have some sort of large ship or something

Yeah. Surely he must have beamed down from somewhere...

Yeah, who knows what the hell is really going on. Are they just messing with the planet? Are they lying when they say the kids feel no pain? What's going on?

"I'm thinking RTD better be wearing body armor at ComicCon though"

Lol. Poor man.

I think Gwen is pretty safe as she's pregnant.

Let's hope so!

The fact that Jack didn't say I love you back gives me a vague amount of hope. I mean, if Jack had told Ianto he loved him then I'd know for sure there was no way in hell Ianto was coming back.

(I'm going to stop trying to kid myself eventually, honest.)

I thought it was a bit harsh that after yelling "Not him" and crying etc that Jack didn't spit out 'I love you too' to Ianto. Saying 'Don't' is just adding angst to the situation.

I hope they explain the kids as well...although, on the lines of the tank thing, what if it's some form of energy harvesting so settle on Jack because he's immortal. Once the 456 die out it could leave Jack in the sort of biological form the face of Boe was in..

They really do need to explain where the Dr is, and I'm finding it increasingly hard to believe that Martha would stay on her honeymoon with all of that going on!

They really do need to explain where the Dr is, and I'm finding it increasingly hard to believe that Martha would stay on her honeymoon with all of that going on! That is one of the problems I'm having, too. Come on, guys!

Goddamn show, getting me goddamn invested again. *crushed*

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