DW: Waters of Mars

[mrv3000]

I had to laugh at the beginning - that person in the video clip holding the baby is NOT Rose. Or Lucy. (But the fannish flailing was fun while it lasted. XD) Also, "DOCTOR FUN!" BWAH!

The bit with the Dalek was interesting - that it recognized a fixed point event in Adelaide.

Also interesting was the Doctor during this. He spent it trying to be an observer, but couldn't help getting involved as much as he could. The bit with the Doctor standing there listening to them die was brutal.

But man, the ending was disturbing. The Doctor's really gone off the deep end, changing the fixed point like that - he's bought into his own omnipotence. He's...getting a wee bit scary. Okay, a lot scary. And seems really scared at his looming death, for some reason. Okay, yeah, it's his death, but still. He knows he's just going to regenerate, right?

But in the preview for the next special: Donna! \o/ And Lucy and the Master! And the Master sporting skaterboi hair!! BWAHAHAHAHA!

Comments

[driftingatdusk.livejournal.com]

I don't recognise Ten anymore - not sure how they plan to have the Doctor bounce back and be a light character again with Eleven after all they've put Ten through. And there's no way they can have a whole new season with a dark!side Doctor who looks like he's just got out of high school. Teen!angst, I guess?!

Loved seeing Donna and the Master and Lucy and Wilfred in the trailer for the next special.

[misssara11.livejournal.com]

I've only seen the last half (found a feed then), so I've missed the details at the beginning, however, I had to smile that he was wearing the Sactuary Base spacesuit! And that I had to have a continuity conversastion with myself that he was clearly wearing Ida's helmet because his broke when he fell down the pit.

The scary I could deal with but the end with shooting? Whoa. Family show people! (It was bad enough on Torchwood.)

Yeah, he's got some issues there. And my reaction to him realizing he was going to change time was, "GO BACK AND GET YOUR WOMAN THEN!" And I'm quite happy with Blue!Ten/Rose!

Also, I might have let out happy squeals at Wilf!, Donna and the Master...Especially the Master (and his see through skull, he should have backed off the bleach a bit I think).

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure how they're going to resolve this all. I'm thinking Nine could have easily gone down this path if Rose hadn't been there to stand between him and that Dalek. He was headed in that direction. The people around him have really held him in check, but unfortunately he's decided he doesn't need anyone.

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

:D It had to have been her helmet!

And the ending was bleak. Very bleak. But I was kind of expecting bleak, so it didn't phase me that much. I was, however, surprised at his "I am all powerful" attitude.

[fiona-conn.livejournal.com]

*burrows into your arms for a hug, 'cause she's actually physically shaking from the adrenaline rush and pounding heart of watching this episode.*

Yeah. I was scared. >.>;

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

It was really tense. The horrible part was knowing up front they were all going to die, and then having to sit back and watch it. Kind of like the Doctor.

[selenityshiroi.livejournal.com]

I was so very creeped out by God Mode Doctor.

The moment he started to walk back to the base I was all 'Nonononononononononono! BAD DOCTOR! DON'T GO CHANGING THE HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE ON YOUR OWN!' and then it he started talking about how he could do what he wanted and that no one could stop him...

I think this is a fantastic way to take Ten into his regeneration. Christmas and New Year are going to be amazingly powerful stories.

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

When he went back, at first I had a "YAY!" reaction. But then things quickly went very very bad. I also thought maybe he could take the survivors to a garden planet or something to live out their lives and pretend they were dead. But no.

And he's at a place we haven't seen him before - it'll be really interesting to see where this goes.

[fiona-conn.livejournal.com]

Yes, and begging the TARDIS to hurry up and arrive.

Then... "kaboom!"

Me: o.o ... SHIT!!!

Then it turns out he still got folks out, but everyone was way too disturbed by what they'd just been through to really appreciate still being alive. I was also just waiting for Captain Lady to slap him when he went on his all powerful spiel, and wanted to pull him into a big hug when he realizes what he's done.

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

It's funny how I think she grasped the situation way better than the Doctor. This is why he should never be allowed to roam around companion-less. He needs that other perspective.

[fiona-conn.livejournal.com]

*nod* It did remind me of that moment at the end of Runaway Bride, as he ruthless purges the Racnoss, and Donna's calling to him that he can stop now. He doesn't do the godmode thing often, but when he does, he's bloody scary.

And it's always a sort of bluescreen reaction, too -- something happens, and it hits his berserk button about being the last Time Lord, and he promptly blue screens and needs percussive maintenance (literal or not) to snap him out of it.

We see it in "Dalek", then in "Runaway Bride", "Family of Blood", the Pompeii episode to a lesser degree (it's more Donna who bluescreens there), and now this.

[selenityshiroi.livejournal.com]

I was waiting for him to go back but knew that he couldn't. Because if he did then he would be crossing all those lines that he's set in stone since we first saw him.

So as soon as he turned back I couldn't even think 'yeay, he's being a hero!' because I was thinking 'OMG...what has he done...'.

And then he kept saying things we KNEW the Doctor should never say and I was stunned at how well RTD had written this slow slide into the darkness.

Captain Brook's actions at the end were expected (even my Mum who doesn't really like Doctor Who was saying 'she's going to kill herself') but it hit just as hard as when Frobisher took a gun into his house.

This is an amazing set up to his regeneration.

[shinyopals.livejournal.com]

IF I HAD WRITTEN THE EPISODE, THAT'S WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED.

I was still crossing my fingers for that right up until he went slightly mental.

[gowdie.livejournal.com]

That might be the whole point. Before we had Rose saying, "Just who the yellow rubbery fuck do you think you are?" on occasion with Nine. And then Donna made the observation that he needs someone. And then Donna again pointed out that despite all awkward relationship complications he insisted on referring to, Martha was in fact REALLY good for him. Etc.

This is the first time we've actually tested the theory. He's been told he should have someone, he believes it to a point, but because he's been so repeatedly hurt by loss, he's still taking the risk of going it alone.

And everything he's been warned of is actually going to happen. It's hubris in action. And he's going to have his ass handed to him. And then, perhaps after losing himself, this version of himself he is so fond of, THEN he can move on having learned from these consequences. And that's how he changes - becomes a wiser Eleven, and lets Amy in.

[robas.livejournal.com]

It was v.v. dark, but somehow his behaviour felt logical to me. I can definitely see how happy Ten in New Earth evolved to this dark version over time. I got the feeling that it was more like screw everyone, I'm going to do what I want for once than an actual God complex.

And squee for the preview!

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

I think you're right - that probably is the point. He absolutely cannot manage on his own, even though he thinks he can.

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

*nodnodnod*

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I expected the episode to be dark, but I didn't know it'd be this dark. Someone needs to make RTD and angst sit in separate corners for a while.

[fiona-conn.livejournal.com]

I can haz hug?

[rosie-not-rose.livejournal.com]

Never seen the Doctor like that. DARK.

So amazing, though. The preview for the next episode - AMAZING.

I'm back to Doctor Who fangirling, and it feels good. XD

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

When they landed on Earth, I thought for a moment that he'd taken them to the past for some reason. (England is cute, okay?) But I'd no idea why he'd do that.

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

I can see the evolution as well. It's not pretty, and it's a line he finally stepped over, but I can see it.

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

Very unsettling.

But the preview! YAY!

[skippity-doo.livejournal.com]

Wow, quick post!

Yeah, I broadly agree with everyone else, really. Way bleak and quite scary. He kind of reminded me of the Master at the end there, before he realised quite what he'd done - is that because I know John Simm is returning, or because he was deliberately played that way? Hmmmmmm.

I was quite frustrated by the Doctor's inaction in this one. Tennant has obviously been playing Hamlet for too long, hur hur. Seriously though, the way he was just standing around really bothered me, I just wanted him to LEAVE or DO SOMETHING.

The where he's left the base but is still on the planet, where he snaps, and you hear the little montage, with the MUSIC and everything was just ace.

I'm just watching the end of Confidential. I HAD BEEN WONDERING HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE THEM TO PLAY LIFE ON MARS. Also hurrah! Danny Hargreaves talking about blowing shit up! And dropping girders on David's head. And Davros.

Props to Tennant for the last 5-10 minutes of this episode, he really had me. He was scared and scary and just wonderful.

[bananasandroses.livejournal.com]

I think, after Doomsday and what he did in Journey’s End, that this has always been coming.

Somebody somewhere said that losing Rose destroyed Ten and it would seem that he’s losing his grip on reality now too.

I didn’t find this episode scary. I did, though, find it desperately painful.

And seems really scared at his looming death, for some reason.

Were it not for the fact we know Eleven is coming, I’d buy a refusal-to-regenerate à la Turn Left.