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[mrv3000]

Am now over the 17,000 word mark. No clue how many pages that is since I leave good-sized blanks everywhere to remind myself to fill in. Sometimes the blanks have nasty notes.

[Totally does not sound like Ten here, you dipshit. Fix it.]

[Elis will mock you for this.]

After watching a whole series, I still find writing Ten's voice unbelievably hard. The more I think about it, the more I'm coming to the conclusion that they just did not write as much character depth as with Nine, and that's my problem. Although the Doctor's still the Doctor - totally the same guy - you just have to do a shift for personality. I guess I subscribe to the notion that in his *head,* the Doctor is the Doctor is the Doctor. Ever since One. Maybe that's wrong. But that's probably why some fandom things confuse me since apparently some make more of an actual split.

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[debs7.livejournal.com]

I think that's the biggest problem I had with this season - the writing for the Doctor was minimal. They had so many chances to explore and provide some history and they just didn't do it.

I figured out last night that the times I loved the Doctor best was when we was conveying his thoughts through action not necessarily through words.

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

I think that's the biggest problem I had with this season - the writing for the Doctor was minimal. They had so many chances to explore and provide some history and they just didn't do it.

Yeah. Not sure why that was. But even as far as character development - it was very minimal. Maybe the mindset is that the Doctor really doesn't need to be developed. He's *the Doctor.* I mean, even episodes like School Reunion and The Girl in the Fireplace, which on the surface seem like big Doctor episodes, I still maintain that the majority of the character development ended up happening with Rose.

I figured out last night that the times I loved the Doctor best was when we was conveying his thoughts through action not necessarily through words.

Oooh. Got any examples? Not that I don't believe you. I'm just curious. :)

[debs7.livejournal.com]

Well the most obvious one for me is in Doomsday with the wall scene - it's just so heartbreaking how he is so still and silent but he conveys so mucthen when he yells or shouts.

I'm going to have to rewatch the season now and try and pinpoint some places where he just does it for me. Oh the horror!

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

Well the most obvious one for me is in Doomsday with the wall scene - it's just so heartbreaking how he is so still and silent but he conveys so mucthen when he yells or shouts.

Oh, *completely*. That scene was brilliantly played. It would have been totally wrecked by words.

I'm going to have to rewatch the season now and try and pinpoint some places where he just does it for me. Oh the horror!

*pats*

Oooh! I have one! The Impossible Planet! When he loses the TARDIS. The reigns were pulled back even though he was desperately pleading for them to find it. And then the holding onto Rose. Very nice scene.

[debs7.livejournal.com]

Oh YES!!! Exactly - he is so much more effective when he isn't yelling and carrying on. When it's understated and subtle I adore him. Like in School Reunion when he is telling Rose about humans withering and dying. The emotion he conveyed was so much more then the words we was speaking.

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

Yup.

Well, hopefully DT actually *watched* S2 and recognizes that subtle is better.

Not that I'm watching S3. GOD NO.

[debs7.livejournal.com]

Another one I thought of on the way to work today on the bike (I think in the weirdest places!!) is in The Girl in the Fireplace. Right at the end when he goes back and finds her gone and the way he acts - barely saying a word to the King but it just does so much for me. and then back on the TARDIS, the way he looks is devestated.

I'm watching S3 - I still like the show :)

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

Oh yup! He was really good in TGitF!

yes, capslock WAS needed :D

[noblealice.livejournal.com]

I CAN NOT WAIT FOR THIS FIC!!! You keep writing teasing entries you little minx! And sometimes you do not even let people comment on them. I'm sure it's going to be awesome and you've nailed Ten's voice. I'm really excited to see how you got around Doomsday and where snails come into play. I bet it's going to be great and if you DONT post it and let me read it I will attack you with the Doctor's Sonic Screwdriver, and no, it wont be set on "tickle". *menacing stare*

Re: yes, capslock WAS needed :D

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

I CAN NOT WAIT FOR THIS FIC!!! You keep writing teasing entries you little minx!

Whoopsie. :D I'm not trying to toy! Really! Just I've never done anything this big and I need to flail!

And sometimes you do not even let people comment on them.

Yeah, because sometimes, well, most the time, I'm just navel-gazing and just need to throw it out there.

I'm sure it's going to be awesome and you've nailed Ten's voice.

Well...reserve judgment, m'kay? ;)

I'm really excited to see how you got around Doomsday and where snails come into play.

SLUGS. NO SHELLS.

*snickers*

It's not so much getting around Doomsday as figuring out how to fix it with events that happen after it. Doomsday will have totally happened before my fic.

I bet it's going to be great and if you DONT post it and let me read it I will attack you with the Doctor's Sonic Screwdriver, and no, it wont be set on "tickle". *menacing stare*

EEP.

It'll get posted. Eventually.

[icepixie]

I remember hearing that RTD said they didn't make any changes in how they wrote the Doctor when DT took over. Which, I...ow. He's not a very different person or anything.

[I can't back this up with a link or anything, but I do remember plenty of people going, "...WTF?" at the time, which was around April-ish.]

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

o_O

Wow. I'm WTF-ing right there with them. I have a hard time believing it would have been the same type of series with Nine still around.

[elismor.livejournal.com]

My guess is that when writing Ten the temptation to reduce him to a series of quips and cheeky raises of the brow is probably pretty high.

I think this sort of speaks to my belief that Tennant is playing him a little over the top and why I found Ten/Rose to be just too frigging CUTE (and not in a good way).

Yes. I will mock you.

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

My guess is that when writing Ten the temptation to reduce him to a series of quips and cheeky raises of the brow is probably pretty high.

God, yes. Fortunately he gets into an angst-type scenario fairly quickly where he gets a bit more serious. But other than that I try to just have him talk. A LOT. About nothing. And making him self-aware that his mouth gets him into trouble.

I think this sort of speaks to my belief that Tennant is playing him a little over the top

Yeah. *sigh* Although it *seemed* that as the episodes went on, he sorta chilled the fuck out. Slightly.

and why I found Ten/Rose to be just too frigging CUTE (and not in a good way).

LALALALALAIAMNOTLISTENING

Yes. I will mock you.

Well, yeah. I mean I fled the chat room in TERROR after giving you a plot point. And then you chased me down with a "YOU WHAT???" Heh.