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*ponders*
I think Martha wins.
Okay, I haven't yet seen *all* of the classic series, but a lot. I was thinking about this last night - Martha's come out better than just about any other companion, hasn't she?
Pros:
Ian and Barbara - They'd probably be the biggest competition for Martha, I'm thinking. They went back to their same time and place. Probably settled down and had a couple of kids... But they don't have the Doctor on speed-dial. That's a preeetty big trump card.
Jamie and Zoe - They got their lives back, but they didn't remember their time with the Doctor. That sucks.
Liz and Jo - I kinda want to put them off in a different category, since they were around during the Earth-bound years, and never did that "TARDIS life" thing. They wound up in the same time and place because they never really went anywhere.
Some wound up a bit better off in the end than when they started, like Leela. And Romana as well, probably - she wound up as another dimension's Time Lord instead of whatever she was doing on Gallifrey before. (Wasn't she working for some government department or something?) But their lives were still drastically altered.
The cool thing about Martha is she was also drastically altered, but it was all *internal.* For all intents and purposes, she's got her life back exactly where she left it. But what she does with it now is really what she'll make of it. That's rather snifty. I think I'm more interested in post-Doctor Martha than with-Doctor Martha. And so I think it could be cool to see her pop up once or twice in S4.
Okay, I haven't yet seen *all* of the classic series, but a lot. I was thinking about this last night - Martha's come out better than just about any other companion, hasn't she?
Pros:
- She's alive.
- Her family is in one piece.
- She's back in the same time *and* the same place as where she started, and so has the choice to pick up where she left off.
- Her mother's back with her father. (I'm guessing this is a pro.)
- Her family remembers everything to know how completely awesome she is. Also, she has people to talk to about her travels, without them wanting to lock her away.
- No weird physical changes (i.e., immortal or hole in the head)
- Came to realization to move on with her life now instead of 20 years later. (i.e., Sarah Jane)
- Got to go out saying everything she wanted to say, as well as realizing that she's worth something on her own without needing to compare herself to someone else.
- Has hot pediatrician to chase after.
- Has the Doctor on speed-dial.
- She lost her flat. *BOOM*
- Didn't get that kind of relationship she wanted with the Doctor.
Ian and Barbara - They'd probably be the biggest competition for Martha, I'm thinking. They went back to their same time and place. Probably settled down and had a couple of kids... But they don't have the Doctor on speed-dial. That's a preeetty big trump card.
Jamie and Zoe - They got their lives back, but they didn't remember their time with the Doctor. That sucks.
Liz and Jo - I kinda want to put them off in a different category, since they were around during the Earth-bound years, and never did that "TARDIS life" thing. They wound up in the same time and place because they never really went anywhere.
Some wound up a bit better off in the end than when they started, like Leela. And Romana as well, probably - she wound up as another dimension's Time Lord instead of whatever she was doing on Gallifrey before. (Wasn't she working for some government department or something?) But their lives were still drastically altered.
The cool thing about Martha is she was also drastically altered, but it was all *internal.* For all intents and purposes, she's got her life back exactly where she left it. But what she does with it now is really what she'll make of it. That's rather snifty. I think I'm more interested in post-Doctor Martha than with-Doctor Martha. And so I think it could be cool to see her pop up once or twice in S4.
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Rose's journey, though, was about choosing to stay and becoming epic to complement the Doctor. She takes the short-cut in Parting of the Ways, becoming epic and a Goddess in minutes -- and then she does it the longer, harder way over the course of S2, which means that the knowledge now belongs to her and isn't forbidden anymore.
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Exactly.
Rose's journey, though, was about choosing to stay and becoming epic to complement the Doctor. She takes the short-cut in Parting of the Ways, becoming epic and a Goddess in minutes -- and then she does it the longer, harder way over the course of S2, which means that the knowledge now belongs to her and isn't forbidden anymore.
By forbidden knowledge, do you mean her learning how to control the TARDIS? Or...
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I mean, in Fear Her, she's smelling what he's smelling. She probably would have been licking things, next.
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Oh, I like this—the idea that Rose forgot the Time Vortex not because the Doctor wiped it from her head, but because her subconscious hid the memories till she was ready to deal with them. I like that a lot. And it fits with when I think she started to get her memories back.
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pointless digression