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[mrv3000]

Some babble after seeing the new Doctor Who logo, and talk of other spoilery S5 things.



Here's the new logo:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/medialibrary/images/misc/logos/new_logo_1440.jpg

I've been thinking about this, and the new logo really doesn't surprise me. In fact, it completely fits the vibe I've been getting from other small things, like the redesign of the TARDIS exterior and interior - making it all retro. Also the insistence of renaming S5 as S1. Even introducing the character of Amy by putting her in a hoochie skirt to bring back the "lads and dads" aspect of the show.

This really is going to be a reboot of the show...that was a reboot of the show. Ignoring the fact that most reboots happen decades after the fact, the strong vibe I've been getting for S5/S1 is that this reboot isn't trying to give us something new. It's trying to rely heavily on the past by going retro.

I'm sure this will excite many fans of the classic series, but to me, it doesn't thrill me. I like classic Who. I've watched about 60% - 70% of the old episodes and I have a fondness for all of it. But I guess I've been liking that New Who is new. It always paid homage to the old, but never actually tried to go back.

I wouldn't say that that something as small as a new logo would completely turn me off to the new series. It's just the more I keep seeing, the less interested I'm becoming.

Comments

[goldy-dollar.livejournal.com]

And now there's a new logo? *spits out coffee*

Man, this is all getting to much for me. I need to disappear into fandom as a way to distract myself. Um... I could immerse myself more into Canadian politics? Yes...? No?

Also, good luck, Moffat, if we revert back to a more Classic Who kind of show. I'm sure I will enjoy many naps in my future.

[maypanic.livejournal.com]

Well, there has always been a new logo for each Doctor. Supposedly even Nine and Ten had different logos, although the only dif I see is more lens flare for Ten.

[erateini.livejournal.com]

*pats you*

[teruel-a-witch.livejournal.com]

Man, this is all getting to much for me.
I agree :( Next thing he does - declares all last five years the Doctor's hallucination *sulks*

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

*pats* Did you watch last night's HIMYM?? I laughed!

[erateini.livejournal.com]

It's not too bad as logos go...

I like classic Who as well, it was the reason I started watching the new series but the reason I love the new series is basically the same as yours: Homage to the old, but never actually trying to go back.

I'm willing to watch it before I judge it (even with that skirt)

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

I'm becoming less and less interested to even try watching. It's starting to feel more like an obligation rather than something I'm actually interested in.

[maypanic.livejournal.com]

I remain mystified by the band-aid skirts, although I have developed a series of theories to explain them.

Calling it Series 1 still makes no sense. If it's harkening back so much to classic, why not go ahead and call it series 32 or whatever?

However, I remain determinedly excited and hopeful. It's a curse.

CRACK!

[maypanic.livejournal.com]

My bandaid skirt theories, let me show you them.

(1) Amy first encounters the Doctor as Ten, bleeding profusely. To bandage his wounds, she tears strips from her skirt, which in the grand tradition of theater tears away perfectly neatly with no hanging threads. (Actually in several pics the short black skirt does appear to have an unfinished hem...)

(2) The micro mini skirt is a subtle tribute to mini skirt wearing Who ladies of times past, including Jo Grant, Liz Shaw, and yes, Rose Tyler. (It's really not any shorter than the skirts Rose wears in Tooth & Claw and Boomtown.)

(3)Amy Pond is actually from the future. She works at a 21st century themed festival. Their costumes are about as historically accurate as the average Renaissance Faire costume in ours. Possibly because they used Captain Jack Harkness' personal DVD collection for historical research.

(4)Amy Pond is from the future. In 2249 Britain develops a very retro aesthetic. One major difference is that all government officials are required to wear short skirts. Yes, sir, ALL government officials. Thereby resulting in the campaign slogan for Prime Minister candidate Captain Jack Harkness - "He's got legs, he knows how to use them."

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

There have been more and more things that have made me say "huh." But not a good kind of "huh."

[http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/]

I don't mind the words part of the logo -- I mean it's boring, but the orangey triangle diamond thing isn't that thrilling or beautiful either -- but lol the TARDIS/DW thing is laaame.

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

It's very...80s. :D

[jesidres.livejournal.com]

I have to say you're pretty much on the money. Moffat is pretty much erasing the last 5 years from canon as publicly as he can without outright saying it. And while yes, there are quite a few people who have demanded this from day one? I would not be surprised if there are just as many who are going to find this incredibly hard to swallow. Each new announcement or comment has made me miss the last 5 years more and more. *shrug*

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

Eh, at least there are DVDs.

I'm sure some will be absolutely thrilled with everything - that this is the way DW should have been done all along. That's fine and all, but it's New Who that I fell in love with, not the classic series. It would have to work extra hard to get me interested again, and actually spend money on their stuff.

[larissa-j.livejournal.com]

Well sure because while it will erase Rose it will also erase Martha, Donna, Jack and John Simms as The Master.

[teruel-a-witch.livejournal.com]

I don't like the new logo, it's too...square xDD

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

Very retro.

[jedi_of_urth]

I know I shouldn't mind the IDEA of a new logo, and this...I can't decide if it's '...okaaaay' or 'DIE IN A FIRE.' You're right, it's very old school, which is very Moffat but I'm like you, while I kind of like Old Who, the show I love is New Who. And sure that was going with RTD anyway since they went with the Moff, but the more he goes about erasing the show I love the more certain I am about my decision not to watch it.

Like you said RTD Who never erased Old School Who, paid a decent amount of homage to it, and it was decades later; Moffat seems to think he can erase the last five years from Who History which is just bizarre when so many people have loved RTD's era with the show.

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

See, yeah. They want this to be a completely new show. Okay, that's fine. But then I get to treat it like a whole new show too. And with any new show, I'm going to ask if it's something that interests me. Right now... Eh. I've seen something like this before (this little show called Doctor Who (2005)), and while I loved that show, I'm not really interested in starting up with a copy.

Yeah, I know that it's not a copy, but a continuation, but that's sort of my mindset right now. Just because I loved SG-1 doesn't mean I was interested in SGA.

[jacksrubberduck.livejournal.com]

Ok now I am starting to cling to my Ten action figure.

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

I really need to get me one of those. XD

[larissa-j.livejournal.com]

The logo is pretty sad.

I'm gonna quote Michael Kors for Amy's outfit: "slutty, slutty, slutty." And it's not as if we haven't seen a policwoman on an RTD show. Gwen's uniform was appropriate. Perhaps not sexy in the I'm gonna flash you if I move too fast way but at least it looked like she could get the job done without embarrassing herself. I'm surprised Moffat didn't put Amy in 5" heels although maybe he did and she couldn't run? Still, I see Amy's skirt and think Brittany Spears during her meltdown or maybe Paris Hilton? That's just not good.

I wouldn't say that that something as small as a new logo would completely turn me off to the new series. It's just the more I keep seeing, the less interested I'm becoming.

Oh, I knew I didn't want anything to do with it :)

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

I'm gonna quote Michael Kors for Amy's outfit: "slutty, slutty, slutty." And it's not as if we haven't seen a policwoman on an RTD show. Gwen's uniform was appropriate. Perhaps not sexy in the I'm gonna flash you if I move too fast way but at least it looked like she could get the job done without embarrassing herself. I'm surprised Moffat didn't put Amy in 5" heels although maybe he did and she couldn't run? Still, I see Amy's skirt and think Brittany Spears during her meltdown or maybe Paris Hilton? That's just not good.

I'm still clinging to the hen night thing, because I refuse to believe she's an actual police officer in that outfit. Not that her being a cop wouldn't have been fun...

Oh, I knew I didn't want anything to do with it :)

HEH. I've been hoping for a fun show to watch, but as time goes on, I'm less and less interested. Maybe it makes a difference that I've found other shows now that I'm enjoying.

[makingmywayhome.livejournal.com]

So, I hate it. No surprise there.

I wouldn't say that that something as small as a new logo would completely turn me off to the new series. It's just the more I keep seeing, the less interested I'm becoming.
I'm so sad because I can't bring myself to care about this show anymore. :(

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

Yeah, it's getting hard.

[elirrina.livejournal.com]

They're actually calling it S1? This is odd. The only other time they called it that was after a LONG hiatus. This is silly. However, I kind of love the retro logo. It reminds me of seeing re-runs of episodes with the Fourth Doctor when I was three or so. But yes, I like the new-ness of the old-new series. (Oh my word, Doctor Who, only you could make writing a description with time-related adjectives so complicated).

Also, the prof in my Roman class was describing how she thought Caligula was actually insane, and she told us that he had a "pounding in his head that drove him, well, mad." I thought of the Master. That is all.

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

They're actually calling it S1? This is odd. The only other time they called it that was after a LONG hiatus. This is silly. However, I kind of love the retro logo. It reminds me of seeing re-runs of episodes with the Fourth Doctor when I was three or so. But yes, I like the new-ness of the old-new series. (Oh my word, Doctor Who, only you could make writing a description with time-related adjectives so complicated).

DW makes life difficult, doesn't it? :D

Also, the prof in my Roman class was describing how she thought Caligula was actually insane, and she told us that he had a "pounding in his head that drove him, well, mad." I thought of the Master. That is all.

HA! That really fits! I could even see him as Caligula.

[pixiesio.livejournal.com]

Also the insistence of renaming S5 as S1.

WHA???????

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

It's NEW! :D

[beck-liz.livejournal.com]

Also the insistence of renaming S5 as S1.

Argh. I now have much more sympathy for the Classic Who fans who were upset that Nine's season was "Series 1" and not series ... umpteen-five, or whatever it should have been.

I don't know. I've watched shows as fannish homework before; eventually I gave up. I'm still going to at least give the first episode a shot if only because I want to see how they handle the transition and Amy's intro, but beyond that the likelihood of my watching it dwindles drastically.

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I still might watch an ep or two. Then again, I still haven't watched SGU. I just can't get motivated enough to try it.

[okelay.livejournal.com]

I liked that RTD clearly respected the old series but also tried to do his own thing, his own show. Moffat seems eager to just go back to the way things were, not trying to think of a show for now, today, and I don't think that's wçhat I want to see.
but the idea of not watching DW is rather terrifying. I'd have to get a new primary fandom and that's not easy to do. or I'd have to get an actual life which is just boring.
or can I stay and complain about everything. they all sound like a lot of fun.


:( I want cookies. moffat is traumatising me.

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

Heh heh. I find it to be too much effort to stick around and watch a show I'm not interested in or actually hate.